Skinny Tee
12-30-2008, 03:44 PM
I think Brady is a product of NE system.
Brady has all of the natural tools I'll give you that but if you put him on another team I don't think he would have the same record numbers that he's had.
So the same goes for Cassell. He can naturally make the throws but NE's system is enhancing his abilities.
steveo395
12-30-2008, 04:15 PM
Cassel is good, but he is basically playing on an all-star team. On the Redskins, he would probably suck.
GMScud
12-30-2008, 04:39 PM
I think Brady is a product of NE system.
Brady has all of the natural tools I'll give you that but if you put him on another team I don't think he would have the same record numbers that he's had.
So the same goes for Cassell. He can naturally make the throws but NE's system is enhancing his abilities.
NE definitely has an awesome system. Certainly both Brady and Cassell wouldn't look as good on lesser teams (although Tom Brady is a pro-bowler on any team IMO). But they still have to study, learn, lead, and make all the throws.
I think it helped that Cassell was learning from Brady for a few seasons before taking the field, and also has an unreal coaching staff around him. That shouldn't diminish his accomplishments, however it should somewhat temper expectations if he lands on a team with a god awful offense.
GTripp0012
12-30-2008, 05:16 PM
Cassel's turnaround and development within the offense is a great story, and some of that is real, legitimate improvement, but lets not forget that in the first third of the season that Cassel was SO bad that he basically cost them a playoff spot.
Overall, you balance the good with the bad, and you are looking at a slightly above average year in one of the most fertile offensive environments of all time.
Assuming that he doesn't get in as an alternate this year, I'd be willing to go out on a (fairly sturdy) limb and say that Matt Cassel will NEVER make a pro bowl.
GTripp0012
12-30-2008, 05:20 PM
The difference between Schaub and Cassel, far as we know it, is that Schaub was a pretty effective college QB. Cassel, he got a pretty solid education.
Skins4L
12-30-2008, 06:17 PM
i dont kno.... im giving Campbell the Green Light for next year. He doesnt turn it over much and i can deal with that. Maybe he wont turn into that ELITE QB... but hes good enough to be in a Super Bowl... AND THATS THE BOTTOM LINE..
Dirtbag59
12-30-2008, 06:47 PM
Is New England's QB position the new Denver RB?
That type of thinking is a big part of the reason as to why Denver is looking for a new running back year after year. If I'm New England I stick with Tom Brady and hope that in the worst case scenario I can turn Kevin O'Donell into another Matt Cassell.
It's Belichick! He's the master of the modular "plugable" replacement roster
30gut
12-30-2008, 09:17 PM
Is he the real deal? I think so. One game doesn't make a player but I came away very impressed by the Ariz game especially.
I don't know about the real deal, but he does appear to be a good QB.
You also have to consider that alot of QBs would look good behind NE line, with Moss, Welker, Watson and Faulk as receivers, 3 years in an explosive system coached by one of the top young OC in the NFL in Josh McDaniels and of course the Hoody.
:twocents:
maroonandblack30
12-30-2008, 09:26 PM
Cassell is legit. He has the tools, he obviously has an advantage being in NE, but honestly what QB EVER has great numbers if the team around him stinks? Its a team game.
In my opinion Cassell will be the NE starter next year. Brady might be done.