JLC: Rogers, Possibly on the Way Out

We are stuck again trying to improve our team through free agency and trades, because we traded poorly in the past. We never learn. Here we are again, people planning all of these trades. We need to be patient and build through the draft. We have been on the losing end on most trades lately.
most people are talking about trading for picks

most people are talking about trading for picks

Not talking much value here.
Give up on a young, talented CB in the prime of his career.....for a 3rd round pick? I would not do it.
We should not panic to get draft picks.
Our FO paniced and made the mistake of trading for Jason Taylor. When it turned out we would have been just fine with out him.
Now they want to panic again and make another stupid trade.
What are those guys smoking.

For those suddenly selective money conscious folks: How about cutting Jason Taylor and his $8m a year salary and sign Carlos Rogers and Dante Hall. We would be set at CB for 4 to 5 years.

Not talking much value here.
Give up on a young, talented CB in the prime of his career.....for a 3rd round pick? I would not do it.
We should not panic to get draft picks.
Our FO paniced and made the mistake of trading for Jason Taylor. When it turned out we would have been just fine with out him.
Now they want to panic again and make another stupid trade.
What are those guys smoking.

For those suddenly selective money conscious folks: How about cutting Jason Taylor and his $8m a year salary and sign Carlos Rogers and Dante Hall. We would be set at CB for 4 to 5 years.

I agree 100% with you on this.

I agree 100% with you on this.

right, let him play out the contract, and don't you get compensatory picks when your FAs are signed anyway? If he gets a big contract, won't we get something?

The other thing that isn't being mentioned is that, unless the owners agree to a new deal with the union, Carlos Rogers doesn't actually hit the market after this year. Sure, his contract with us expires, but he's only going to have 5 professional seasons, meaning that we still hold his rights through restricted free agency.

Just because Jason LaCanfora doesn't realize this doesn't mean it's not true. Rogers is not going anywhere.

right, let him play out the contract, and don't you get compensatory picks when your FAs are signed anyway? If he gets a big contract, won't we get something?

Yeah, maybe a comp pick at the end of the 4th round. Hmm, 2nd round pick now, end of the 4th round pick next year. You decide.

thats retarted. DONNOT TRADE CARLOS ROGERS! That would be a terrible move. Id like to see Rogers, Hall, & Springs all return. we need them all...weve seen that this team needs DB depth every year....

For the record, I'm not saying whether or not a player can be an elite cornerback if teams do not fear throwing at him, which is definately the case with Rogers' team leading 100+ targets. But his coverage numbers are as good as ANYONE in the league. The very best of the best.

So regardless of whether not QBs fear him, no one can argue that we aren't a better defense when QBs are foolishly throwing at him.

I don't know whether or not he'll ever be able to become a turnover machine. I do know that our pass defense without him is pretty awful. Way closer to 2006 than is comfortable.

It's a flat out insane idea that we'd get a deal worthy of trading Carlos Rogers. He's 26.

And I think people not fearing throwing at Rogers is very key to DeAngelo Hall's success. If you'll remember, the fact that QBs really feared Nnamdi Asomugha is how Hall's lack of cover skills first got exploited. If QBs want to throw 8 passes a game at Rogers, Hall looks much, much better on the other side.

And I think people not fearing throwing at Rogers is very key to DeAngelo Hall's success. If you'll remember, the fact that QBs really feared Nnamdi Asomugha is how Hall's lack of cover skills first got exploited. If QBs want to throw 8 passes a game at Rogers, Hall looks much, much better on the other side.

solid break-downs