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Defensewins
12-28-2008, 08:40 PM
The 2008 Dolphins proved the need for continuity is an overrated excuse for a bad team.
You know what team I am talking about.:cool:

Beemnseven
12-28-2008, 08:53 PM
Yeah, for everyone who says that Redskins fans are the most impatient, that all we want is instant success -- I give you the 2008 Miami Dolphins.

Colin Cowherd said it best earlier last week. Bill Parcells, along with the Atlanta Falcons, just proved to teams like the Texans, the Browns, the Redskins, the Lions, the Seahawks, that not only can you turn your team around in one year, you SHOULD. In this league, you have two groups of people -- the contenders, and the excuse-makers.

I know there are several ardent Cerrato defenders here. I'd like to know, how much longer will you keep making excuses for the guy?

SouperMeister
12-28-2008, 08:59 PM
Well this is the Dolphins' draft picks from this year, our draft next year should look something like it (minus the RB, FB and QB I would say):

1 Jake Long OT
2 Phillip Merling DE
2 Chad Henne QB
3 Kendall Langford DE
4 Shawn Murphy OG
6 Jalen Parmele RB
6 Donald Thomas OG
6 Lex Hilliard FB
7 Lionel Dotson DTMerling would have looked good in burgundy and gold. He certainly looked good returning a Farve pass for a TD to help Miami clinch the AFC East today. That gave him as many TDs as our 3 2nd round receivers combined.

GTripp0012
12-29-2008, 03:17 PM
I know everyone wants to give Parcells all the credit but they got very lucky when the Jets cut Pennington. He fell right in their lap.If not for Pennington they'd have Chad Henne playing.Bingo. The Jets really put the pieces in place for failure last year when they scapegoated Pennington at midseason for what was ailing their team. He was, at the time, 31 years old and the most accurate passer in NFL history, and they decided that he was neither the long-term, nor short-term future.

Given what we know now about the relative qualities of the AFC West and NFC West, it's not at all surprising that the Dolphins, Pats, and Jets managed to combine for 31 victories this year. What is surprising is that out of all the teams in the AFC East, it's the Dolphins who had the best defense this year. While their defense wasn't even as good as our defense, IMO, after it was last in the league in most categories last year, it's certainly surprising that Parcells has it at 'mediocre' in only one season.

BrunellMVP?
12-29-2008, 03:20 PM
espn has parcells possibly available

Dirtbag59
12-29-2008, 03:27 PM
the skins have 4 draft picks next year

Which they plan to turn into more so they can add more pass catchers for Campbell. I gotta say after last years draft I find myself very nervous about this years festivities. Vinny claims they were looking hard at OL but even this year he's talking to Mel Kiper about this years receiving crop on his radio show. Ironically I kind of expect the team to come away with Knowshown Moreno this year which on one hand I think is great but then I look at the Giants with 3 guys drafted after the 2nd round and I can't help but think that it's the OL that makes that type of production happen.

Either way we better come away early with a DT, C, and RT. That would go a long ways towards making me feel better about the direction of our organization. Still wouldn't be to surprised to see a CB taken somewhere early and then Vinny getting up in front of the press with his shoulders shrugged saying "he was the best player available".

GMScud
12-29-2008, 03:45 PM
Yeah, for everyone who says that Redskins fans are the most impatient, that all we want is instant success -- I give you the 2008 Miami Dolphins.

Colin Cowherd said it best earlier last week. Bill Parcells, along with the Atlanta Falcons, just proved to teams like the Texans, the Browns, the Redskins, the Lions, the Seahawks, that not only can you turn your team around in one year, you SHOULD. In this league, you have two groups of people -- the contenders, and the excuse-makers.

I know there are several ardent Cerrato defenders here. I'd like to know, how much longer will you keep making excuses for the guy?

Excellent post.

firstdown
12-29-2008, 04:25 PM
Yeah, for everyone who says that Redskins fans are the most impatient, that all we want is instant success -- I give you the 2008 Miami Dolphins.

Colin Cowherd said it best earlier last week. Bill Parcells, along with the Atlanta Falcons, just proved to teams like the Texans, the Browns, the Redskins, the Lions, the Seahawks, that not only can you turn your team around in one year, you SHOULD. In this league, you have two groups of people -- the contenders, and the excuse-makers.

I know there are several ardent Cerrato defenders here. I'd like to know, how much longer will you keep making excuses for the guy?

Well they had good seasons but can they do this again next year. I aslo don't understand why they would enclude the Seahawks as they have been in the playoffs 3 of the past 4 years.

Sheriff Gonna Getcha
12-29-2008, 04:49 PM
I know there are several ardent Cerrato defenders here. I'd like to know, how much longer will you keep making excuses for the guy?

Until this past offseason, Cerrato did not have a defined role with the team. The Redskins supposedly made offseason moves based on the decision of a committee comprised of Cerrato, Gibbs, Grilliams, and other coaches. Without knowing whether Cerrato pushed for or opposed signing free agents like Lloyd on the one hand and Fletcher on the other, it was pretty difficult if not impossible to give Cerrato a "grade." Yet, like a blindfolded kid taking a swing at a pinata, a lot of Redskins fans blamed Cerrato for all the bad personnel decisions (e.g., Lloyd, Duckett, etc.) and praised Gibbs for the good ones (e.g., Washington, Griffin, etc.).

The 2008 offseason was the first one since 2002 in which we knew Cerrato was running the show. Based on our 2008 season, it looks like Cerrato did a poor job with the lines and the trade for Jason Taylor. However, the book on guys like Thomas, Kelly, Davis, Tryon, and the rest of the draft class won't be fully written for a few years. So, I'll give Cerrato a C- for 2008, with the condition that the grade is subject to change based on how we look back on the 2008 draft in a few years.

MTK
12-29-2008, 05:36 PM
I know everyone wants to give Parcells all the credit but they got very lucky when the Jets cut Pennington. He fell right in their lap.If not for Pennington they'd have Chad Henne playing.

Yeah seriously, he was probably the biggest reason for their turn around.

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