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maroonandblack30 12-19-2008, 03:58 PM I agree. Sure I would like a solid affirmation. But this is the next best thing. Would you rather hear "We've discussed JZ's status at length and he is staying"?? I'ld rather think that they made this decision last year, and it is what it is. Period. End of statement.
I hope.
That could be the case. I just don't understand why VC wouldn't just come out and say JZ is the coach in 09. Something is strange about that.
skinsfan1987 12-19-2008, 04:07 PM That could be the case. I just don't understand why VC wouldn't just come out and say JZ is the coach in 09. Something is strange about that.
Because Vinny is a idiot and he doesn't take himself responsible for this mess. Remember, he promoted zorn to head coach from the Offensive Coordinator position when they couldn't get another head coach.
For the record: If Jim Zorn is fired and Vinny keeps his job, THE REDSKINS HAVE NO HOPE. SERIOUSLY:WHO THE HELL WANTS TO COACH HERE ANYWAY? THIS WILL BE SYNDER 7TH HEAD COACH HE HAS HIRED IN HIS NINE YEAR REGIME, THAT'S GOTTA BE A NFL RECORD OF SOME SORTS.
Paintrain 12-19-2008, 04:09 PM I think before Zorn goes or Vinny, there has to be an overhaul of the coaching staff. Find out if Blache and Bugel are truly committed to another year on the team, move Jackson, Hixon, and Smith out of here the day after the last game. Start there.
I agree on Hixon, Smith, Bugel and Blache.. I think Jackson is ok. I wouldn't mind seeing Jerry Gray or Kirk Olavodatti (sp) as the defensive coordinator.
SmootSmack 12-19-2008, 04:11 PM I agree on Hixon, Smith, Bugel and Blache.. I think Jackson is ok. I wouldn't mind seeing Jerry Gray or Kirk Olavodatti (sp) as the defensive coordinator.
Well Olivadotti is definitely a guy they've been building up for the past several years. I don't know that he's ready yet for defensive coordinator, but I might make him defensive line coach or special teams coach.
over the mountain 12-19-2008, 04:12 PM Can anyone tell me if we have any chance in hell of getting my latest man crush Eric DeCosta or are we doomed to have Vinny, who's STILL talking about Recievers on his radio show to lead us into to football oblivion?
yeah i caught a bit of this in the car when vinny was talking to mel kipper. vinny and mel were talking about how WRs take 2-3 years to see what you got and then started pointing out the D line players drafted in the first 2 rounds this year throwing out stats like "jake long 4 sacks, merling 1 1/2 sacks" etc. to me it seemed vinny was trying to cover his ass by pointing out that any D lineman we could have drafted would not have contributed this year like our WRs. well thanks to vinny those Dlineman he listed wont be contributing next year or the year after for the skins. to me it showed a lack of long term thinking which i thought was why we pay the man.
yeah vinny, defend your logic, i understand its your job but to me he comes off like a laughing hyenia who doesnt want to admit certain short-comings or even learn from past mistakes. just dont really like the guy, seems like a bit of tool with his humor.
go skins i suppose . . .
mredskins 12-19-2008, 04:14 PM Classic front office speak = "We will evaluate everything at the end of the year, right now we will focus on the next opponent" Translation = our coach is gone.
Hmmm...I swore that meant "Vinny likes hairy asses", I will have to go back and review my Front Office Speak Dictonary for the correct translation.
GMScud 12-19-2008, 04:19 PM yeah i caught a bit of this in the car when vinny was talking to mel kipper. vinny and mel were talking about how WRs take 2-3 years to see what you got and then started pointing out the D line players drafted in the first 2 rounds this year throwing out stats like "jake long 4 sacks, merling 1 1/2 sacks" etc. to me it seemed vinny was trying to cover his ass by pointing out that any D lineman we could have drafted would not have contributed this year like our WRs. well thanks to vinny those Dlineman he listed wont be contributing next year or the year after for the skins. to me it showed a lack of long term thinking which i thought was why we pay the man.
yeah vinny, defend your logic, i understand its your job but to me he comes off like a laughing hyenia who doesnt want to admit certain short-comings or even learn from past mistakes. just dont really like the guy, seems like a bit of tool with his humor.
go skins i suppose . . .
Don't you love that he is so bug eyed? I mean I don't know if I've ever seen someone who's eyes are that wide at all times. He's literally and figuratively a deer in headlights! LOL!
BigHairedAristocrat 12-19-2008, 04:20 PM Well Olivadotti is definitely a guy they've been building up for the past several years. I don't know that he's ready yet for defensive coordinator, but I might make him defensive line coach or special teams coach.
Considering how poorly our linebackers have played (other than Fletcher), The last thing Olivadotti deserves is a promotion. We should bring in someone outside for the DC position, possibly Keith Butler (Steelers LB coach), or Mike Waufle (Giants DL coach). We need some fresh blood injected into the defense, not someone who will just continue with Blache's wussy-pants philosophy.
BrunellMVP? 12-19-2008, 04:24 PM maybe the Zorn discussion never happened (with Vinny present) becuase the Redskins are FINALLY going to KICK HIM TO THE CURB and are keeping him out of the loop.
maroonandblack30 12-19-2008, 04:32 PM Hmmm...I swore that meant "Vinny likes hairy asses", I will have to go back and review my Front Office Speak Dictonary for the correct translation.
I'm just going off of what I have seen and heard in the past 10 years. Thats usually what the GM says before someone gets the axe.
Let me know what your dictionary says.
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