Reading between the lines I say Zorn is gone.

I think Zorn is gone. He has lost 5 straight to sub par teams, he then got into it with arguably our best offensive player. All of this as well as the fact management sides with big name players.


Bottom Line: If Zorn goes 7-9 he'll see the door

Sub-par? Steelers, Cowboys, Giants, Ravens? those aren't sub par teams.

ESPN - Jim Zorn's status with Washington Redskins not discussed (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3781605)

Classic front office speak.... I will be shocked if Zorn is here in 09

Dagger.... I guess we are starting over again.
What do you mean by classic front office speak. He said they have not discussed the issue so I would think that looks better for Zorn. If they are talking about the issue then they would be talking about letting him go.

Sub-par? Steelers, Cowboys, Giants, Ravens? those aren't sub par teams.

So your saying we can't beat those teams. 3 of those 4 games were at home. Baltimore is a 45 min drive. They might not be "sub par" but all 4 games are games we had a chance to win.

These 10 understudies ready to become leading men (http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=09000d5d80d6d12a&template=with-video-with-comments&confirm=true)

NFL.com has put together their own list. So with that said anyone up for hiring Brian Schottenheimer? Yeah I thought he was a little young myself.

Can't say thought that I'm to excited about the list. I mean Spags won't come here, Fischer will probably advise Swartz not to come here considering what we did to his friend GW as well as the fact that Swartz will get plently of offers.

Jeff Davidson though seemed intriguing considering his offensive philosophy, influences, and age. Though I wish I knew a little more about his personallity.

Ironically right now among the many coaching related thoughts in my ADD mind maybe we could go a long way towards getting the locker room back together by bringing back GW. However that would also make it less likely for us to be able to cut Springs, Griffin, and Washington in one big swoop. Anyway heres a short list of guys I'd like to see as possible head coaches of the Washington Redskins.

GW, Grimm, Davidson, Swartz, Cowher, Mooch (yes I still think he would make a lot of sense), and Spagnola (fat chance). Not to crazy about the Holgrom theory.

Classic front office speak = "We will evaluate everything at the end of the year, right now we will focus on the next opponent" Translation = our coach is gone.

So your saying we can't beat those teams. 3 of those 4 games were at home. Baltimore is a 45 min drive. They might not be "sub par" but all 4 games are games we had a chance to win.

Those are definitely not sub-par teams though. I think the concern shouldn't be that we lost to those teams so much as how non-competitive we looked.

So your saying we can't beat those teams. 3 of those 4 games were at home. Baltimore is a 45 min drive. They might not be "sub par" but all 4 games are games we had a chance to win.

Where did I say we couldn't beat those teams? I am just disputing that teams with a combined record of 40-13 aren't "sub-par" I think thats pretty obvious.

Those are definitely not sub-par teams though. I think the concern shouldn't be that we lost to those teams so much as how non-competitive we looked.

Absolutely.... our offense look over whelmed all 5 games.... not a good sign.

Classic front office speak = "We will evaluate everything at the end of the year, right now we will focus on the next opponent" Translation = our coach is gone.
If you say so.

I heard Vinny this am and it really didn't sound like a vote of confidence for Zorn. It sounded like Vinny was dancing around the subject. I just kind of think that the problem in the locker room is what's going to get him fired.... as well as his offense sucking beyond belief.