Cooley Sets New Skins TE Receptions Record

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MTK
12-17-2008, 07:51 PM
I don't even remember the last time they looked his way in the red zone.

Beemnseven
12-17-2008, 08:41 PM
I'd like to know how many trips they've had to the red zone since the offensive slump began.

RedskinMike
12-17-2008, 09:11 PM
cooley is a beast

jbcjr14
12-18-2008, 09:42 AM
To bad he only has 1 TD so far this year!

I love the guy, but he probably broke the record for critical fumbles as a Redskin TE too!

onlydarksets
12-18-2008, 10:01 AM
You beat me to it. Cooley has three fumbles this year. Portis by comparison has only two, but he has carried/touched the ball 291 times. Cooley has fumbled three times on only 73 touches.
Cooley leads all tight ends in yards after contact. Sure, he could bring his fumbles down to zero if he took a knee after catching the pass, but what he brings to the table is the ability to run with the ball. Three fumbles is meaningless compared to the key first downs he's fought for after initial contact.

firstdown
12-18-2008, 01:18 PM
Helmet to helmet is in force regardless of if someone running with the ball or not.
I don't believe that is true because peopl lead all the time with their helmet when making a tackle and the runner lowers their head before a hit.

onlydarksets
12-18-2008, 01:34 PM
I don't believe that is true because peopl lead all the time with their helmet when making a tackle and the runner lowers their head before a hit.

The only rule I could find is this one:
Article 8 There shall be no unnecessary roughness. This shall include, but will not be limited to:
(g) using any part of a player’s helmet (including the top/crown and forehead/“hairline” parts) or facemask to butt, spear, or ram an opponent violently or unnecessarily
http://blogmedia.thenewstribune.com/media/2006%20NFL%20RULEBOOK.pdf

In the scenario you outlined, it's not violent or unnecessary (i.e., the defender can't control what the RB is going to do with his helmet).

firstdown
12-18-2008, 01:51 PM
The only rule I could find is this one:

http://blogmedia.thenewstribune.com/media/2006%20NFL%20RULEBOOK.pdf

In the scenario you outlined, it's not violent or unnecessary (i.e., the defender can't control what the RB is going to do with his helmet).
Thats what I think and I also looked but could not find the rule either.

MTK
12-18-2008, 02:34 PM
I don't believe that is true because peopl lead all the time with their helmet when making a tackle and the runner lowers their head before a hit.

It has to be intentional and blatant.

Sure helmet to helmet contact happens all the time, just not intentionally. That's when it gets flagged.

jbcjr14
12-18-2008, 05:27 PM
Cooley leads all tight ends in yards after contact. Sure, he could bring his fumbles down to zero if he took a knee after catching the pass, but what he brings to the table is the ability to run with the ball. Three fumbles is meaningless compared to the key first downs he's fought for after initial contact.

I agree wit this statement, unforutnately his fumbles come at the wrong time during the course of a game.

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