Portis

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BDBohnzie
12-15-2008, 04:32 PM
When is this guy going to stop getting a pass for his lack of production?

JC gets hammered for being mediocre, Portis is nothing but a mediorce RB in my eyes. No balance, no ability to make guys miss in the open field, no ability to hit the homerun, horrible in short yardage....bottom line he isn't a PLAYMAKER.

Jason La Canfora has an article out that in Portis's last 266 caries he doesn't have a carry over 30 yards.... that is a shocking stat IMO.

Added to all this is the fact that he is a semi-cancer in the locker room.

I don't understand why this guy gets a pass while JC gets hammered constantly.
I honestly think it's hard to be a mediocre RB in the league and put up the numbers that Portis has...at 27, he has over 9000 rushing yards (7th active list, 28th overall) and 70 TDs (4th active list, 27th overall), averaging 92.4 yards/game (2nd active, 5th overall).

Even with his recent struggles (393 yards, 0 TDs in the past 6 games, vs. 944, 7 TDs in the first 8), he's still 3rd in rushing yards in the NFL. The problem is, the rest of the offense isn't producing either. So if Portis doesn't get a pass for his lack of production, neither does anyone else. His own injuries have hampered him, as well as a stagnant offense that cannot produce. Throw in an offensive line that has fallen apart in front of our eyes, and backup RBs that cannot come close to shouldering the load when Portis isn't in the game (this season at least. Betts has proved before that he can), and you have a recipe for disaster.

As far as JLC's fact...it's not true. Granted, the truth isn't too far, but he does have at least 2 runs of 30+ this season in 291 carries (source: NFL.com game logs). However, it wasn't too long ago this season that he carried this team to victory more than once. It's a little harsh to say he's not a playmaker just because his stat sheet isn't filled with long runs. Just ask the Cowboys, Ravens and Bengals. It doesn't take a lot of long runs to get a victory...a string of several in a row can do the trick.

A semi-cancer? It wasn't too long ago that the same cat was dressing up as different characters from week to week, trying to boost's the team's morale. I think the outburst from him last week was frustration from the fact that he's hurt, and the team is losing, and he can't get his pockets straight. I don't condone his actions, in fact, if he had beef, it should have been face to face with Zorn, and not on the John Thompson Show. But calling him a semi-cancer, when this team clearly feeds off of him? I think it's far-fetched.

53Fan
12-15-2008, 05:13 PM
^^^ thats b/c backs who take on all facets of the game get pounded on and dont stick around to long after the 3-4 years they are the featured back. terrell davis, jamal anderson, jamal lewis, marshall faulk, edgerrin james, even LT is showing some slowing down. hell shaun alexander was an MVP 2 years ago worth big bucks is now out of the league.

point is, premier backs (which CP is) do not last long after a good 3-4 years of pounding. i could keep adding names to my list of guys who came out blazing for a 3-4 period carrying their team (just like CP has the past 3-4 years here) but they all break down and fall off after that window of performance and team reliance in their game plan.

im sure the colts fans didnt agree with the dropping of the edge as he was still relatively young, fun to watch, and still had productive years ahead of him but the colts (a perennial power house with good management) knew better, took the fan disappointment and went to the SB!! no, joseph addai is not as good as the edge back when he was with the Colts but thats the point. you get these thorough bread stud RBs and run them hard then let them go to graise somewhere else. Is joseph addai a better play this year and last year than the edge is in arizona? are we now starting to realize you guys are right when you say its a good thing fans dont run the skins? unfortunatley you get your way with CP and his contract. great player, thanks for the strong hard running 5 years but we are going to find a younger you.

runningbacks are like prostitutes; you pay em, pound em hard then get yourself out of there. problem is we married ours.

sorry for the offensive terminology . . .

go skins!!

(post in response to "all facets" post, not you sheriff gonna getcha, sorry and ill stop posting on this subject, i cant say anymore really)

And a lot of us know how expensive divorce can be. :( However good Portis is, we need a lot more than an elite running back on this team. If we could trade him for a couple of good linemen I would do it in a heartbeat. I think it is the position itself that is overvalued. I don't see the Chargers or the Vikings tearing up the league, and who were the Patriots running backs when they were winning Super Bowls? The Colts won. Is Joesph Addai a great running back? Snyder gave Portis too much money for his value to the team. Period.

steveb
12-16-2008, 12:59 PM
he's always gotten a free pass,,,gibbs 2.0, now zorn. he's the owner's pet, and he aint goin' nowhere. he's having a decent year, but if you check his numbers with skins, he's had a couple not so great years...i.e. under 4.0 a carry.

Skins4L
12-16-2008, 02:59 PM
AP
Brandon Jacobs
Brian Westbrook
Michael Turner
D. Williams

I'd rather have all those guys.


go be a eagles/giants fan then cuz ya blind anyways so it doesnt matter.

jdot26
12-16-2008, 03:09 PM
Every team that everybody is naming and all the running backs yall naming have good offensive lines let us get one and yall will be back on clinton portis wagon again.. Man i hate fans that like him then dont like him.. Yall suck i hate far weather fans

maroonandblack30
12-16-2008, 03:21 PM
Anyone who thinks Portis is average....You answer this? Does Portis get the job done ? Does he get the job done well?!!!!! Does he consistently lead the nfl in rushing when healthy? When you think of offensive leader and playmaker on this team, does he cross your mind? Geesh. Some people are so critical! He is not perfect but he sure is DAMN GOOD!

Thats pretty much my point.... He is average, he isn't bad by any stretch, he just isn't a GREAT running back like every one always says. I definitely don't think he sucks. I don't think he has ever lead the league in rushing a Skin though.... not sure.

My main beef with Portis is that he doesn't break any game changing runs and isn't effective in short yardage. (things a great RB does)

My first post somewhat insinuated that I don't think he produces, which is wrong, he definitely produces. But I think Ladell Betts would probably have the same numbers if he got the touches.

Great running backs (ie LT (in his day) Brian Westbrook, AP, etc) always have at least one big play per game. CP not so much.

Let the hate continue.

44ever
12-16-2008, 03:32 PM
If every player played their position as well as Portis does we would be unstopable. Definatly in the playoffs. I won't go as far as the Superbowl. But I probably could.

RedskinMike
12-16-2008, 03:39 PM
ladell betts sucks always has always will

maroonandblack30
12-16-2008, 03:59 PM
ladell betts sucks always has always will

I will always question the desire of a player who willing chose to be a back up.

He could have gotten the same money to start somewhere after 06. Weird. I don't think he sucks though.

SkinzzFan
12-16-2008, 09:31 PM
Every team that everybody is naming and all the running backs yall naming have good offensive lines let us get one and yall will be back on clinton portis wagon again.. Man i hate fans that like him then dont like him.. Yall suck i hate far weather fans

What's a far weather fan? LOL.

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