Players cooling to Zorn

Matty's right about what happens in losing situations. The real test comes this weekend, and not just whether we win but how we win and players' attitude. We need a solid win, period. And it's ok if there's some friction between the HC and the players. Animosity is bad altogether, but a little friction that challenges the players to "prove the asshole wrong" and really go out and execute is a good thing. I think in a way it's what we've seen in NY, Coughlin isn't anyone's friend, but u bet your ass the players have a heap of respect for the iron-willed man at the head of the ship. Time will tell what kind of relationship/coaching style Zorn develops over the group.

The bigger, scarier issue like many have said is whether Danny and Vinny meddle in all this business. Goddamnit if they fire Zorn at the end of the season I hope they can't even find a replacement (because nobody wants to work for them).

They won't fire a rookie HC. Only HC they shitcanned after one year was Marty and that was purely about power. Now if Zorn fails next year and his offense looks just as bad, then he better pack his bags, but I doubt Snyder is going to pull the plug after this season is over. Zorn is safe also, for if Snyder fires Zorn he will look like an ass, and his detractors who criticized him for hiring Zorn will come out looking like a rose. Only posible way Zorn gets fired is if Cowher begs for the job.

It's interesting that Pro Football Talk is dismissed around here as a know-nothing site every time they say something critical about the Redskins - - but when they something positive or laudatory, then they bring the gospel.

Maybe - - just maybe - - there are indeed some significant flaws in the way this team is run in addition to the flaws in the way the team is contructed and the way the team is coached and the way the team has played the last month and a half.

On another point, someone said earlier that in the Gibbs 2.0 regime, there was solid coaching authority and this kind of stuff never happened then. Excuse me...

Did I imagine the incredible brouhaha involving LaVar Arrington and the coaching staff on minor matters such as should he play and should he freelance when he plays?

Was I the only one who heard some players questioning Mark Brunell as the starting QB?

Didn't Al Saunders admit that he called a play thinking Portis was in the game but that Portis had taken himself out and Saunders didn't know about it?

Here is something Redskins fans have to live with. The Redskins are not a highly disciplined organization in just about any facet of the management structure. The only thing that is certain is that Danny Boy will fire people whenever he feels like firing them. Other than that ...

This kind of story - - if it indeed has a source inside the Redskins - - is exactly the kind of story that the Skins plant as part of their process for firing a coach or and exec or a player. Keep your eyes and ears open; if you read a couple more of these stories unrelated to this Portis/Zorn spat, then be ready to watch Jim Zorn get fired unless he wins at least one playoff game.

That is the pattern of the past. And the best predictor of future behavior is - - past behavior.

Thanks a million... for making sure i'm not the most pessimistic guy around here :)

Danny Snyder dumped Schottenheimer because he [Schotty] wanted to make all the personnel decisions. Snyder was a young, immature owner then; who fancied himself a GM. Every single season the Redskins have had a tough season after that, there's a cloud of fans saying the HC will be fired immediately.

The fan sites have the same threads ["xxx Coach fired at the end of this season"] - every season with Spurrier, even Gibbs and now with Zorn. Since Schottenheimer, Snyder has not fired a Head Coach - the coaches have resigned. So why would Snyder dump Zorn?

If Snyder fires Zorn after a 7-9 season [worst case] WHO in the NFL would come to coach here? Cowher? Why work for an extremely fickle boss?

PFT is not a good source. No players are going to be happy when the team starts to lose games. Zorn is a rookie coach who needs another season to get better. Zorn did not massage CP the way some top players need to be stroked. Yet, Zorn also got this team to play above itself.

If Zorn is dumped there will be no talented coaches that would come here without a massive contract and a list of conditions to restrict Snyder and Cerratto.

The truth is that Zorn is the best Snyder can get to come to this franchise. No real coach would come here to take this sort of guff from a player, suffer under the mediocre GM that is Vinny and bring this team up to this level for this small a contract. Only a washed-up coach or one who's never had a chance would take this job.

Campbell is the problem!!!!!!!!!!!!

I thought he would have more patience!!!

ESPN - Sources: Zorn considering resigning if 'Skins have losing season (http://yougotrickrolled.com/)

I thought he would have more patience!!!

ESPN - Sources: Zorn considering resigning if 'Skins have losing season (http://yougotrickrolled.com/)

LOL that was pretty good dude. You got me


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I thought he would have more patience!!!

ESPN - Sources: Zorn considering resigning if 'Skins have losing season (http://yougotrickrolled.com/)

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Campbell is the problem!!!!!!!!!!!!

Your wisdom is... wait you don't have any.

If Snyder would have wanted to do whatever the hell he wanted last offseason, he would have hired Fassell (sp?). As much as there was talk of "continuity", we have a new head coach and some things have changed. Next year we will actually have continuity, and Zorn will have a year of NFL head coach experience under his belt.

This time is in a weird spot a rookie head coach, aging starters that just cant seem to get it done all the time anymore, and rookies that just havent realized their potential.
Im not giving up on zorn, or campbell, or even vinnie for that matter.
But i DO Think its time to ay goodbye to some of these players that have dropped off and look towards rebuilding.