KLHJ2
12-26-2008, 12:37 PM
I would be rich and not be participating in this conversation.
If You Ran the Redskins...KLHJ2 12-26-2008, 12:37 PM I would be rich and not be participating in this conversation. PurpEagle_AUTiger 12-26-2008, 01:44 PM Ok, so after your little crybaby display, what would you do to actually fix the problems? I will pay an additional $20k to Dan Snyder... Put on Shoulder pads, helmet, and jockstrap... And join the squad... ... Then Buy more LOCKER ROOM YELLING/CURSING tokens... ... GoSkins! 12-26-2008, 06:31 PM I'd meet up with Vinny C and tell him that, while I value his friendship, he has 2 more years to prove he is worthy of the GM job. Fail at it and he will be demoted. Jim Zorn, see #1 Tell Zorn he needs to hire an experienced OC. We tried the no experience thing with Spurrier. It doesn't work. Demand young, first round talent at OT for next season through draft or free agency. Same for DT. Try to restructure Springs, Taylor, Washington. Keep them if there is any way possible until there is a suitable replacement in house. Taylor would be the top priority. Springs should split his time as a FS so that Landry can blitz (Landry is our most effective blitzer). Retaining 2 of the 3 would be a very nice luxury. Sign Hall and lock up Rogers for a few more years. Go after another premier CB in free agency (wish list = Asomugha, Nnamdi (http://www.nfl.com/players/nnamdiasomugha/profile?id=ASO415291)) in case other guys on team don't re-sign. Re-sign Evans, Montgomery, and Daniels. Philip will need to take a pay cut and can rotate into a DT position on passing downs. Draft a LB with the third round pick. Sign a WR experienced in Zorn's WCO, hand picked by Zorn. Tell Zorn this, along with #4, ends his excuses for the offense not making yards through the air because of "lack of execution". Re-sign Kendall, knees and all, and make Jansen the primary backup to every OL position (except LT). Also, make Jansen compete for a starting position at center. Sign or draft a big, bruising, tailback that can get a tough yard every time. Run him behind Sellars on short yardage. drew54 12-27-2008, 12:41 AM In no particular order: OL Drafted in the first round must start. Would like LT, move Samuels to RT Henry Ellard for WR coach. Draft DT that can contribute in third round. Re-sign Hall, Montgomery, Golston, Evans, Albright, Solve kicker/punter problems Sign free agents for depth, not starters. This is better for the cap, and we don't need starters, we need improvement from our young guys, and our injured guys to get healthy. Draft best player available at LB, DT, and OL with remaining picks. Be patient. Sonny9TD 12-27-2008, 09:18 AM Get rid of Campbell. jeff569 12-27-2008, 11:50 AM sign Suggs-cut Washington trade 1st for low 1st and 2nd-draft Curry and Unger draft Levitre in 3rd start Brennan, Kelly, and Thomas in place of Campbell, Moss, & ARE watch Redskins win Super Bowl BrunellMVP? 12-29-2008, 04:22 PM fire vinny, give parcells a blank check. These are the players he's assembled. 50 wins 62 losses 2 playoff first round losses top 3 in league payroll every year. I'm not sure where we can locate free agent signings/trades to see how much we've paid to people...net, net is horrible as well (esp. considering the forgone picks) Deon sanders, bruce smith, adam archuleta, marcus washington, santana moss, randel el, brandon lloyd, casey rabach, randy thomas, pete kendall, jason taylor, tj duckett, Vinny's Draft Record Since he's been GM: 2008: Leave alone - though its been a DISASTER. 2007: Landy and Blades (only 1 pick in the first four rounds). Laundry is a no brainer and blades could be serviceable but can't cover. 2006: Rocky (limp knees- got exposed as he can't stay healthy a full season), Golston (again, only 1 pick in the first 4 rounds) 2005: Rogers and Campbell (both first rounders, both good players though not great- Rogers could be shopped this summer. no 2,3 round picks) 2004: Cooley and Taylor: only 4 picks in the draft, taylor was a no brainer, cooley a VERY pleasant surprise. 2003: 3 draft picks, dockery was an excellent grab at 3rd, Jacobs was a bust in the 2nd. 2002: Ladell betts, Ramsey, Rock Cart. both betts and ramsey are capable backups, rock is a great special teams player but nothing more. 2008 - Washington Redskins Rd Sel # Player Position School 2 34 Devin Thomas WR Michigan State 2 48 Fred Davis TE USC 2 51 Malcolm Kelly WR Oklahoma 3 96 Chad Rinehart T Northern Iowa 4 124 Justin Tyron CB Arizona State 6 168 Durant Brooks P Georgia Tech 6 180 Kareem Moore DB Nicholls State 6 186 Colt Brennan QB Hawaii 7 242 Rob Jackson DE Kansas State 7 249 Chris Horton FS UCLA 2007 - Washington Redskins Rd Sel # Player Position School 1 6 LaRon Landry SS Louisiana State 5 143 Dallas Sartz LB USC 6 179 H.B. Blades LB Pittsburgh 6 205 Jordan Palmer QB Texas-El Paso 7 216 Tyler Ecker TE Michigan 2006 - Washington Redskins Rd Sel # Player Position School 2 35 Rocky McIntosh LB Miami (Fla.) 5 153 Anthony Montgomery DT Minnesota 6 173 Reed Doughty DB Northern Colorado 6 196 Kedric Golston DT Georgia 7 230 Kili Lefotu G Arizona 7 250 Kevin Simon LB Tennessee 2005 - Washington Redskins Rd Sel # Player Position School 1 9 Carlos Rogers DB Auburn 1 25 Jason Campbell QB Auburn 4 120 Manuel White RB UCLA 5 154 Robert McCune LB Louisville 6 183 Jared Newberry LB Stanford 7 222 Nehemiah Broughton RB The Citadel 2004 - Washington Redskins Rd Sel # Player Position School 1 5 Sean Taylor FS Miami (Fla.) 3 81 Chris Cooley TE Utah State 5 151 Mark Wilson T California 6 180 Jim Molinaro T Notre Dame 2003 - Washington Redskins Rd Sel # Player Position School 2 44 Taylor Jacobs WR Florida 3 81 Derrick Dockery G Texas 7 232 Gibran Hamdan QB Indiana 2002 - Washington Redskins Rd Sel # Player Position School 1 32 Patrick Ramsey QB Tulane 2 56 Ladell Betts RB Iowa 3 79 Rashad Bauman CB Oregon 3 87 Cliff Russell WR Utah 5 159 Andre Lott CB Tennessee 5 160 Robert Royal TE Louisiana State 6 192 Reggie Coleman T Tennessee 7 230 Jeff Grau TE UCLA 7 234 Greg Scott DE Hampton 7 257 Rock Cartwright RB Kansas State BigHairedAristocrat 12-30-2008, 11:25 AM I think you're dead wrong on Campbell vs. the WCO, and obviously trading our franchise QB doesn't help improve the team, puls we wouldn't get anything for him right now because teams like to draft their own QBs. Features - NFL pro football articles and coverage from Pro Football Weekly (http://www.profootballweekly.com/PFW/Features/Scouts+Eye/2008/eye122908.htm) Three of the NFL’s first-time head coaches — Mike Smith, Tony Sparano and John Harbaugh — finished the season with 10 or more victories. Only Jim Zorn, who finished the second half of the season 2-6 after a 6-2 start, did not reach the double-digit mark. The key thread in Atlanta, Miami and Baltimore was very sound decision-making in the personnel department. All three won with new quarterbacks and reshaped rosters. As for Zorn, it was the front office that selected its head coach based in large part on his ability to develop the quarterback already in place, a plan that faltered down the stretch as it became increasingly evident that Jason Campbell did not fit Zorn’s West Coast offense. It would not be a surprise, if Zorn has his way, if Colt Brennan is starting at some point next season, or if Campbell were traded rather than extended long term. Also, you say trading our "franchise QB" doesnt improve the team... Campbell hasnt done anything to show he is a franchise QB. Jason Campbell = Trent DIlfer and nothing else. He is a guy who doesnt make many mistakes and can manage a game. Thats it. he is GREAT for a gibbs offense but the exact opposite of what we need in the WCO. Campbell might be able to improve, but he will never "fit" this system. He will never reach HIS potential in this system and the system will never reach ITS potential as long as he's the QB. Paintrain 12-30-2008, 11:41 AM fire vinny, give parcells a blank check. These are the players he's assembled. 50 wins 62 losses 2 playoff first round losses top 3 in league payroll every year. I'm not sure where we can locate free agent signings/trades to see how much we've paid to people...net, net is horrible as well (esp. considering the forgone picks) Deon sanders, bruce smith, adam archuleta, marcus washington, santana moss, randel el, brandon lloyd, casey rabach, randy thomas, pete kendall, jason taylor, tj duckett, Vinny's Draft Record Since he's been GM: 2008: Leave alone - though its been a DISASTER. 2007: Landy and Blades (only 1 pick in the first four rounds). Laundry is a no brainer and blades could be serviceable but can't cover. 2006: Rocky (limp knees- got exposed as he can't stay healthy a full season), Golston (again, only 1 pick in the first 4 rounds) 2005: Rogers and Campbell (both first rounders, both good players though not great- Rogers could be shopped this summer. no 2,3 round picks) 2004: Cooley and Taylor: only 4 picks in the draft, taylor was a no brainer, cooley a VERY pleasant surprise. 2003: 3 draft picks, dockery was an excellent grab at 3rd, Jacobs was a bust in the 2nd. 2002: Ladell betts, Ramsey, Rock Cart. both betts and ramsey are capable backups, rock is a great special teams player but nothing more. 2008 - Washington Redskins Rd Sel # Player Position School 2 34 Devin Thomas WR Michigan State 2 48 Fred Davis TE USC 2 51 Malcolm Kelly WR Oklahoma 3 96 Chad Rinehart T Northern Iowa 4 124 Justin Tyron CB Arizona State 6 168 Durant Brooks P Georgia Tech 6 180 Kareem Moore DB Nicholls State 6 186 Colt Brennan QB Hawaii 7 242 Rob Jackson DE Kansas State 7 249 Chris Horton FS UCLA 2007 - Washington Redskins Rd Sel # Player Position School 1 6 LaRon Landry SS Louisiana State 5 143 Dallas Sartz LB USC 6 179 H.B. Blades LB Pittsburgh 6 205 Jordan Palmer QB Texas-El Paso 7 216 Tyler Ecker TE Michigan 2006 - Washington Redskins Rd Sel # Player Position School 2 35 Rocky McIntosh LB Miami (Fla.) 5 153 Anthony Montgomery DT Minnesota 6 173 Reed Doughty DB Northern Colorado 6 196 Kedric Golston DT Georgia 7 230 Kili Lefotu G Arizona 7 250 Kevin Simon LB Tennessee 2005 - Washington Redskins Rd Sel # Player Position School 1 9 Carlos Rogers DB Auburn 1 25 Jason Campbell QB Auburn 4 120 Manuel White RB UCLA 5 154 Robert McCune LB Louisville 6 183 Jared Newberry LB Stanford 7 222 Nehemiah Broughton RB The Citadel 2004 - Washington Redskins Rd Sel # Player Position School 1 5 Sean Taylor FS Miami (Fla.) 3 81 Chris Cooley TE Utah State 5 151 Mark Wilson T California 6 180 Jim Molinaro T Notre Dame 2003 - Washington Redskins Rd Sel # Player Position School 2 44 Taylor Jacobs WR Florida 3 81 Derrick Dockery G Texas 7 232 Gibran Hamdan QB Indiana 2002 - Washington Redskins Rd Sel # Player Position School 1 32 Patrick Ramsey QB Tulane 2 56 Ladell Betts RB Iowa 3 79 Rashad Bauman CB Oregon 3 87 Cliff Russell WR Utah 5 159 Andre Lott CB Tennessee 5 160 Robert Royal TE Louisiana State 6 192 Reggie Coleman T Tennessee 7 230 Jeff Grau TE UCLA 7 234 Greg Scott DE Hampton 7 257 Rock Cartwright RB Kansas State Wow, when you look at the drafts he's been involved in, it truly is frightening how poorly they've drafted this decade. While I will always root for the Redskins to win, it may not be such a bad thing to have a 2-14 or 4-12 clunker next year so Danny has to clean house and get a real football guy in there! MTK 12-30-2008, 11:47 AM Features - NFL pro football articles and coverage from Pro Football Weekly (http://www.profootballweekly.com/PFW/Features/Scouts+Eye/2008/eye122908.htm) Also, you say trading our "franchise QB" doesnt improve the team... Campbell hasnt done anything to show he is a franchise QB. Jason Campbell = Trent DIlfer and nothing else. He is a guy who doesnt make many mistakes and can manage a game. Thats it. he is GREAT for a gibbs offense but the exact opposite of what we need in the WCO. Campbell might be able to improve, but he will never "fit" this system. He will never reach HIS potential in this system and the system will never reach ITS potential as long as he's the QB. You've got a lot of definitive statements there. If the NFL proves one thing year after year, it's never say never. Time will tell if JC is our franchise guy. I think you have to give him another year in this offense to really see how he fits exactly. He showed some nice growth this year, but I guess since he didn't become the next Peyton Manning over night it's not enough for some, but for the opinion that really matters, Zorn, he liked what he saw to stick with JC another year. |
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