Clinton Portis on the JT Show

You need to read more articles. I've read it plenty from both, especially Snyder.
I guess not enough press is generated from such

You'd think it'd be something huge to harp on, like the minor shit we bs on daily

Absolutely. But it starts at the top. Have we ever heard Snyder or Cerratto take any blame for the countless past mistakes/growing pains made by the FO? I have never heard it.
A team is a reflection of its owner, GM and coach.
Norv Turner, Terry Robiskie, Marty Schottenheimer, Steve Spurrier, Joe Gibbs and now Jim Zorn. Six Coaches in eight years....and now the rumors from the FO. Nice.

Do you really think the rumors are coming from the FO? I doubt it.

Absolutely. But it starts at the top. Have we ever heard Snyder or Cerratto take any blame for the countless past mistakes/growing pains made by the FO? I have never heard it.
A team is a reflection of its owner, GM and coach.
Norv Turner, Terry Robiskie, Marty Schottenheimer, Steve Spurrier, Joe Gibbs and now Jim Zorn. Six Coaches in eight years....and now the rumors from the FO. Nice.

Actually Snyder has freely admitted to some of his past mistakes.

I'm not so sure any of these rumors are coming from the top.

I agree with Portis based on one play from the Ravens game. Let us not forget our wide receiver screen play. We ran one wide receiver screen to Santana and he almost broke it, took it 25 yards on a third and long. Now this play showed me something. We have had the answer to these exotic blitzes that overload one side of the line with a safety and linebacker this whole month. After Santana took that wide receiver screen Jason started having time and we drove on them. Seems to me Zorn is trying to make this rocket science when it isn't. I believe a few wide receiver screens will hold off that “get to Jason fast as you can blitz mentality”. Overload your safety and send him to Jason if you dare. Your safety in the backfield and Moss will be in the end zone. I think that's the solution to all this mess. What you fellas think? Joe Gibbs gave Zorn the eggs. Jimmy, just make the freaking Omelets.

Portis kept his mouth shut when Gibbs was here. (For the most part). Gibbs commanded respect and in turn, respected his players.

Zorn.. Something is off with him. If he's treating vets and rookies all the same, I think I'd feel a little disrespected too. It's almost like giving a promotion to the entry level Joe, that's been working at your job for a few months, while you've been busting your ass for years.

Maybe Zorn will be able to adjust in the last following weeks, but you definitely don't wanna end the year on bad terms with your players. As for Portis, I have no problem with him airing dirty laundry, so long as it doesn't stick a knife in the team morale.

You'd think T.O was playing for the Skins judging from some people's opinions here..

Exactly. And we continue to compare this to what if Gibbs was here? First of all, in his last season, Gibbs wasn't even calling the plays..or was he? This isn't the end of the world. Zorn benched his best player and the guy didn't like it.

I'll bet if Zorn had benched CP but the Skins are like 9-3, Portis wouldn't give a rat's ass. It's the losing and blame shifting that has Portis ticked more than anything. I don't think he's finger pointing at all.

Every player is still embarrassed from the hip hip thing. If you did that at my job they would fire you after they beat you with a pipe. He's never gonna get it. All I'm sayin is just listen to Zorn. I can't put my finger on it but it sounds like he has no clue.

I think he's done.

ProFootballTalk.com - PORTIS NOT HAPPY WITH ZORN (http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/12/09/portis-not-happy-with-zorn/)

Here is a related article on profootballtalk.com

Portis needs to STFU. Zorn is the coach, he calls the shots. Period.

Stuff like this is why Portis rubs me the wrong way, 2nd time this year he has thrown teamates/coaches under the bus. He always gets a pass though.

Like previously said, this would never happen under Gibbs. Above all the Skins were family under Gibbs... even during the 5-11 season you got the sense that everyone was soldout for the team first concept.

Great point by a previous poster...."Quitters and losers start blaming others when things go wrong."

AMEN, and this is soooo true in many facets of life

Every player is still embarrassed from the hip hip thing. If you did that at my job they would fire you after they beat you with a pipe. He's never gonna get it. All I'm sayin is just listen to Zorn. I can't put my finger on it but it sounds like he has no clue.

I think he's done.

They weren't embarrassed when they did it. And again, all these problems/issues would be solved by winning. Everyone; Zorn,CP, Campbell, etc need to look first at themselves, and then the team.

Lets see...the team does well we and the players are all hunky dory. The team starts its spiral down it's slippery slope and people on the message boards go nuts with let this guy go and find someone else for this position. Basically throwing people under the bus including Zorn at times. Even joking that our 3rd string QB can play every position.

Even the Coach got in the act calling players out. From Rookies to Vetrans.

Now finally a player speaks his mind as has everyon else and we should slap his hand and tsk, tsk him and say "No Portis you should not be calling people out in public."

I think we all can agree with Portis. Heck most of you said the same thing. and to be honest if the Coach is the type to call people out in public then he better have thick skin to be called out himself. Otherwise don't call people out in public. Praise them as has several coach's in the past not just Gibbs and handle them in private.

I agree with Portis. Now lets see if Zorn can make amends and right the ship before it completely sinks. These next few weeks and break into next year will tell what type of coach he really is. As for Cowher I really don't see this happening. I think he is a far better coach and definitly would take the Skins somewhere but unless Zorn has a hard on for Cowher and was simply biding his time he should have let one of the previous coach's take the helm and fail so he would look good bringing in Cowher. Now he will definitly be the laughing stock if he make another HC change. We would be right up there with the Raiders. I also don't think we could possibly bring in Cowher as HC and demote Zorn to OC. I think the ego's would be a thing to deal with and Zorn would not take the embarrassment.

Zorn better figure it out though. I'm betting he wants to impliment more offense and the players are not getting it or atleast some are not getting it. So he has to keep it simple and basic and other teams have figured it out.

I agree with Portis based on one play from the Ravens game. Let us not forget our wide receiver screen play. We ran one wide receiver screen to Santana and he almost broke it, took it 25 yards on a third and long. Now this play showed me something. We have had the answer to these exotic blitzes that overload one side of the line with a safety and linebacker this whole month. After Santana took that wide receiver screen Jason started having time and we drove on them. Seems to me Zorn is trying to make this rocket science when it isn't. I believe a few wide receiver screens will hold off that “get to Jason fast as you can blitz mentality”. Overload your safety and send him to Jason if you dare. Your safety in the backfield and Moss will be in the end zone. I think that's the solution to all this mess. What you fellas think? Joe Gibbs gave Zorn the eggs. Jimmy, just make the freaking Omelets.Remember, the Redskins were third and one, got a false start, 3rd and 6, another false start, 3rd and 11, then ran a successful draw with Sellers that was called back by holding, and then ran that wide receiver screen for the first down.

I think it's very telling that Zorn had to call 4 straight plays to get the first down, and while getting the first down was getting progressively more unlikely, Zorn still managed to get it.