GMScud
12-15-2008, 06:54 PM
After the little tiff between CP and Zorn last week, you can totally tell Redskins PR got to both of them as far as post-game candor.
Zorn, who typically talks openly about lack of execution and hasn't taken too much blame thus far (until after this game):
Zorn: 'I've Got to Look at Myself' - Redskins Insider (http://voices.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/2008/12/jim_zorn_taking_full_blame.html#more)
And Portis, who is attention-hungry and rarely admits fault, but will certainly dish it out:
washingtonpost.com (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/12/14/AR2008121402270.html)
Funny how Portis is literally quoting Zorn in prior weeks, blaming the game on players' lack of execution.
GTripp0012
12-16-2008, 02:54 AM
I'm a little surprised that this is close to 50-50. I would have figured there would be a mutiny by now.
I appear to have taken my faith out of humanity too soon once again.
GTripp0012
12-16-2008, 02:56 AM
After the little tiff between CP and Zorn last week, you can totally tell Redskins PR got to both of them as far as post-game candor.
Zorn, who typically talks openly about lack of execution and hasn't too much blame thus far:
Zorn: 'I've Got to Look at Myself' - Redskins Insider (http://voices.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/2008/12/jim_zorn_taking_full_blame.html#more)
And Portis, who is attention-hungry and rarely admits fault, but will certainly dish it out:
washingtonpost.com (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/12/14/AR2008121402270.html)
Funny how Portis is literally quoting Zorn in prior weeks, blaming the game on players' lack of execution.Well, Portis is smart enough to know he was out of line and that the problems with the team run a lot deeper than Zorn.
Zorn's smart enough to know he can use this loss to rectify his prior mistakes.
I don't know how long Portis will remain effective, but I know that Portis and Zorn can co-exist as long as they both are around.
beemnsevenspop
12-16-2008, 10:50 AM
Zorn, should go down or ought to go down as the first HC ever to be an interim first year HC before the season started. His responsibilities going into this year were too over whelming and way above his pay grade and initial application.
I would hope we could either down grade him as Offensive Coordinator, but at the same time I preach continuity and being able to solidify our leadership and not this carousel of direction we are supposed to be heading.
It seems Cowher would never be interested in us. Where are we gonna find a guy worthy of us and better yet would want to keep Zorn as Off Coord.???
In Baltimore, they have Cameron for Off. and Ryan for Def. their HC Harboraugh is simply just a lifeguard watching over the 2 sides not really even messing with them. He simply is the front man who does interviews to the media and is supervisor for his staff.
Zorn posseses great character but I haven't seen the players seem to be declining their approval of him by the week. I wish Snyder/Cerrato could evaluate the talent/ team we have and be able to bring coaches/players in that work around them rather than entities that falsely build hype which fuels his product being merchandised.
I like how all of our problems are reflections of poor Mgt. but all they do is temporarily disguise it or temporarily sweep it under the rug. History seems to repeat it self again in DC.
Downgrade Zorn to Offensive Coordinator? You're kidding, right? Isn't he calling the offensive plays now? How does THAT seem to be working out so far (Crumbling offensive line nothwithstanding)?
44ever
12-16-2008, 11:00 AM
"if" Zorn is replaced he should at least remain as QB coach. It would provide continuity. That is if JC stays. Otherwise it makes no sense to keep him at all.
Joe Kidd
12-16-2008, 11:02 AM
Has there ever been a head coach that lost his job and stayed on at a lower position? Just wondering if that's even a reality. I'm guessing no.
CRedskinsRule
12-16-2008, 11:06 AM
JJ wasn't seen as a joke. College HC w/ a NC.
Can anyone tell me why we ran the ball w/ 2:10 left in the game down by 10, ball on the 10 yard line, approx? Then ran the screen after that. Bad stuff man.
You know that was my first reaction too, and said so while watching, but as I said it, I realized it actually was a great call. Everyone knew we needed two scores, no timeouts, every defender had to be thinking pass. But we did have the two minute warning, so we had one shot at pulling a draw or run to break it. He took the shot, used the two minute warning, and it didn't work. Like most of our plays in the second half of the season.
44ever
12-16-2008, 11:21 AM
Has there ever been a head coach that lost his job and stayed on at a lower position? Just wondering if that's even a reality. I'm guessing no.
We are talking about the Redskins! Where reality doesn't seem to exist! ????
SmootSmack
12-16-2008, 06:04 PM
Has there ever been a head coach that lost his job and stayed on at a lower position? Just wondering if that's even a reality. I'm guessing no.
Gunther Cunningham came back to the Chiefs a few years after being let go as head coach
Dirtbag59
12-16-2008, 06:25 PM
Has there ever been a head coach that lost his job and stayed on at a lower position? Just wondering if that's even a reality. I'm guessing no.
Dave Campo is closest to fulfilling that criteria but he came back a few years after he was let go.