D.C. Examiner: Zorn's job in jeopardy? (not so fast he's coming back)

I think Campbell will likely suggest the no huddle in the offseason, and Zorn will let him do it.

Campbell's INT rate is second in the NFL to Jeff Garcia, his pocket presence has significantly improved (arguably out of necessity), and he will never have to face a schedule of pass defenses as hard as he had to this season the rest of his career.

The drop in interception rate has not come at the expense of any of the rest of his production. He was a 1 to 1 type guy in TD/INT ratio through 2007, he's now a 2 to 1 type guy. The completion percentage increase shows that his decreased INT rate is real, not a fluke, suggests that perhaps the fact that his TD rate isn't any high might be a fluke, and he's actually improved his Y/A, albiet slightly.

You're comparing the 2008 Campbell as if he's still the same guy he was in the first 8 games. See my previous post, it's been a tale of two seasons. He has 6 INTs in the last 6 games.

http://www.thewarpath.net/redskins-locker-room/27119-d-c-examiner-zorns-job-jeopardy-17.html#post512011

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There is a huge diffence between going 0-5 and finishing 8-8 and starting 6-2 and going 8-8...
what.. the order of sucking vs doing well?

0-5 then 8-3.. or this year 6-2 then maybe 2-6 if we really do go 8-8

Dude, get real. The Skins were completely flat in the first quarter. They started fighting in the second quarter. But you could tell after Cooley fumbled the defense was not emotionally up, and they came out and got ran up on by Cedric Benson.Did you even know that the Lions were up two TDs on the Bucs this year in the first quarter?

Here's the point: you can't assume that the team coming out flat is because of any coaching issue. Sometimes, the opponent just capitalizes on the sudden change opportunity. The sample size isn't big enough to claim a conclusive evidence.

I'm glad Cedric Benson almost got 3.5 yards per carry against us and thusly we can assume that someone wasn't trying.

I think Zorn has done a poor job of delegating his responsibilities, but this is an easy adjustment made in the offseason.

I think, first and foremost, that we are ignoring obvious good things about the offense when we point out that it isn't scoring points. We were on the freaking one inch line with downs to go and couldn't get it in, which can't be put on the coaching. Our kicker is really struggling, which can't be put on the coaching, or the offense at all.

And then I think that the offensive personnel is not nearly as good as it was last year. Well, it's close, but all the changes were downgrades.

That, and we were missing two offensive lineman this game.

None of that can be put on Zorn. His adjustments haven't helped us score points, but he is doing a much better job than Blache is, with less to work with. For all the crap we give Cerrato for his DL acquisitions, his inability to add anything of consequence to the offense has put Zorn in a position where, for the year, his unit has greatly overachieved.

And while the holes were there last year, they're nothing like the holes we've opened for him this year. Portis' success is a lot individual, but a lot due to the scheme change upfront, which improved the blocking at 4/5 positions, while making them easier to read for Portis because it's very close to what he had in Denver. We're a top five line blocking for the run, or at least we were with Samuels.

So let's see here. We have a top ten defense, the defesne has kept us in every single game this year, even w/out having a pass rusher and the offense is pretty much last in scoring and you say Zorn is doing his job better than Blache???????? Sorry Tripp but you're flat out wrong here.

You're comparing the 2008 Campbell as if he's still the same guy he was in the first 8 games. See my previous post, it's been a tale of two seasons. He has 6 INTs in the last 6 games.

http://www.thewarpath.net/redskins-locker-room/27119-d-c-examiner-zorns-job-jeopardy-17.html#post512011He also played 4 great defenses, and has zero INTs against the two weaker defenses he's faced. He's also getting little help.

Part of this six game stretch, Campbell was struggling to see the field, but he's clearly seeing it well now. To lump his last three games in with the first two games in this series, while eliminating anything before the Pittsburgh is selective sampling.

You're comparing the 2008 Campbell as if he's still the same guy he was in the first 8 games. See my previous post, it's been a tale of two seasons. He has 6 INTs in the last 6 games.

http://www.thewarpath.net/redskins-locker-room/27119-d-c-examiner-zorns-job-jeopardy-17.html#post512011

some of those aren't his fault.

So let's see here. We have a top ten defense, the defesne has kept us in every single game this year, even w/out having a pass rusher and the offense is pretty much last in scoring and you say Zorn is doing his job better than Blache???????? Sorry Tripp but you're flat out wrong here.Well, perhaps. But Zorn isn't giving up yards by doing stupid things. Blache is. So while it is my opinion that Zorn should be given a pass for not having the answers (and a lot of smart people are going to disagree with me), it's pretty obvious that Blache has called some moronic defenses that decrease our chances of getting off the field, especially on third down.

Did you even know that the Lions were up two TDs on the Bucs this year in the first quarter?

Here's the point: you can't assume that the team coming out flat is because of any coaching issue. Sometimes, the opponent just capitalizes on the sudden change opportunity. The sample size isn't big enough to claim a conclusive evidence.

I'm glad Cedric Benson almost got 3.5 yards per carry against us and thusly we can assume that someone wasn't trying.

Or we can simply look at the results of the game, see that the we were outscored by a team that had no business outscoring us and can thusly assume that our players didn't give it their all today.

It's not as difficult as you desparately want to make it.

Did you even know that the Lions were up two TDs on the Bucs this year in the first quarter?

Here's the point: you can't assume that the team coming out flat is because of any coaching issue. Sometimes, the opponent just capitalizes on the sudden change opportunity. The sample size isn't big enough to claim a conclusive evidence.

I'm glad Cedric Benson almost got 3.5 yards per carry against us and thusly we can assume that someone wasn't trying.

There you go again. If you're going to pump stats at me you're going to need to improve your analytical thinking.

Go back and read my post. I said we came out flat in the first quarter and got ran up on, and then we started fighting in the second quarter. So don't throw Benson's FULL GAME line at me.

In the first quarter, he ran for 41 yards on 7 carries, for nearly a 6 yard average. Then the Redskins started shutting him down, allowing only 32 yards on 14 carries the rest of the way. So what, the Redskins forgot how to defend the run in the first quarter and suddenly remembered in the second?? No, they didn't get their heads in the game early enough, and got run over.

some of those aren't his fault.

Yes that's totally true, but Campbell's decline in play over the recent five to six game stretch is also reflected in his yards per attempt and completion percentage numbers as well.

All this was to say that GTripp was kind of being ridiculous by telling us that in 2008 Campbell has a better INT rate than everyone but Jeff Garcia. Nobody cares, because he's at that level on the strength of his first 8 games. But we all know from watching the team, the performances we saw from the Redskins in the first 8 games are long gone.

It doesn't make a lot of sense to evaluate Campbell's full season stats when what we're really asking ourselves is why has the team fallen so hard from it's great start? We should look at the stats SINCE then, not over the whole season. It's convoluted reasoning.