Colt Brennan

See post # 35...thanks BD.

I didn't say he wouldn't produce because he's not a 1st round pick, or because he's from the WAC. I say he won't produce because: He's a system guy from Hawaii, he doesn't have a strong arm, he isn't physically gifted, he has a poor throwing motion / release. He doesn't strike me as a real good decision maker.

The facts on him "are what they are". He's not a first round level talent. The WAC is an inferior conference to the SEC, ACC, Big 12, Big 10, PAC 10. Timmy Chang put up similar numbers to Colt in his time at Hawaii. Timmy Chang is now in the CFL.

When Colt actually wins an NFL game as a starter, then we can open the discussion on whether he'll amount to more than a career back-up. Right now if JC goes down (God forbid), I'm glad we would go to Collins rather than Brennan.

Thank you. All these people who think Colt Brennan could step in and be viable NFL QB right now are giving me a headache. I like that we drafted him, and I like the thought of developing him over time. It's frustrating as hell to lose, but benching Campbell is just dumb.

Although the conference you played in in college doesn't matter all that much. Joe Flacco played for Delaware for god's sake. Romo? Eastern Michigan. McNair played at Alcorn State... There are plenty of damn good NFL players that didn't play in BCS conferences.

I acknowledge that Jason Campbell is imperfect. Jason has a slow release and, at times, has struggled to throw accurate balls on short and intermediate passes. Moreover, I do not hate Colt Brennan. In fact, I want to see Colt succeed just as I want every other Redskin to succeed. My loyalty is to the team, not to any particular individual. So, I will be thrilled if Colt becomes some stud who brings us a Super Bowl trophy.

At this point, however, I have seen nothing to make me think that Colt is undoubtedly "the guy." Consider the following:


Although Colt was highly productive in college, so too was Jimmy Chang, who is now out of the league. I don't mean to suggest that Colt Brennan is Jimmy Chang, Jr. However, Colts' fans should consider the reality that June Jones' offense tends to make quarterbacks look more talented than they truly are.



Mel Kiper and several other respected draft analysts concluded that Colt, while worth a late round pick, is a system quarterback who will struggle in a pro-style offense against starting-caliber defenses. Mel Kiper has been wrong on numerous occasions, but it is meaningful that a great number of people paid to evaluate talent and 31 teams concluded that Colt was not worthy of a 5th round pick. In anticipation of the "Tom Brady was a 6th round pick" chorus, for every Tom Brady, there are several dozen JaJuan Seiders. Who is JaJuan Seider? Exactly.



In the biggest games of his career, Colt struggled mightily. Colt struggled against Georgia in the Sugar Bowl, in Senior Bowl practices and in the Senior Bowl itself. Now, I've heard Colts' fans say, "he was playing behind a suspect line against Georgia." That excuse may very well be true, but it is interesting that Colt fans scoff when Jason Campbell's fans say "Jason is playing behind a suspect line." I do not think that a single game defines a quaterback, but I watched Colt in the Sugar Bowl and he wasn't pretty.



While Colt performed brilliantly in preseason games against the Colts' and the Jets' 3rd team defenses, he also played very poorly against the Panthers' and Bills' 3rd team defenses. I expect young quarterbacks to have problems with consistency when playing against tough 1st team defenses. I do not expect to see those inconsistency issues when a starting caliber quarterback plays against 3rd team defenses.



Colt will not beat Jason to become the starter until he beats Collins to become the primary backup. Although many people seem to forget about Todd Collins, he is still on this team. Moreover, Collins is the primary backup. Until Zorn and the rest of the coaching staff believe Colt is a better quarterback than Todd, Colt will not beat Jason for the starting quarterback role. So, as hard as this seems to believe, right now there is no competition between Colt and Jason.

It's not that I am convinced that Colt will be a bad quarterback in the NFL, it's that I don't know what to make of him at this point. We have so little information to judge him by, that I am simply stunned that so many people are convinced he is the answer to all of our prayers. I suppose I shouldn't be stunned, after all, we are talking about Washington Redskins fans who tend to love backup quarterbacks like a junkie loves a fix. It is those people, the devout members of the Cult of Colt, whose judgment I question. For anyone who is 100% positive Colt is "the guy," please let me take your time machine for a spin.

As much as the fans would love the coaches to play Colt, they play the best players available. They do not make personnel decisions to satisfy the personal curiousity of outsiders. So I ask the members of the Cult of Colt, do you think the coaches (a) realize that Colt is a superior quarterback to Collins and Campbell but refuse to play him because they have some vendetta against him or (b) aren't as smart as you when it comes to Colt despite the fact that they see him nearly every day in practice?

Colt Brennen is a future pro-bowler.Campbell holds on to the ball to long,he looks like a deer inheadlights against top-notch defenses.I wouldnt mind him throwing a few more interceptions to see him riffle it out of his hands!! DO SOMETHING!!!! The way our offense is i say get Vick outta jail card and let him run.(not really,im just pissed and frustrated)

Colt Brennen is a future pro-bowler.Campbell holds on to the ball to long,he looks like a deer inheadlights against top-notch defenses.I wouldnt mind him throwing a few more interceptions to see him riffle it out of his hands!! DO SOMETHING!!!! The way our offense is i say get Vick outta jail card and let him run.(not really,im just pissed and frustrated)

Sigh. :doh: Read SGG's post right before this one. A few decent preseason games and he's a future-pro bowler??

I'm gonna sign off of the warpath for a little while. I feel like my IQ is being lowered today by some of the crap flying around....

Colt is a mobile,strong arm,accurate,energetic QB.

Colt is a mobile,strong arm,accurate,energetic QB.

Yes, he certainly was in college. He is also our 3rd string QB right now. If he is currently so mobile, strong armed, accurate, and energetic, why is it that he hasn't even been able to win the #2 job over a 38 year old, mild mannered, quiet, lead footed, mediocre-armed QB? Exactly.

Yes, he certainly was in college. He is also our 3rd string QB right now. If he is currently so mobile, strong armed, accurate, and energetic, why is it that he hasn't even been able to win the #2 job over a 38 year old, mild mannered, quiet, lead footed, mediocre-armed QB? Exactly.

What has Jason done in the league? Look this is starting to become stupid. So i go back to my first statement. When he gets his shot he prove people wrong and everybody will convert.


For the record, Flacco didn't "get it done" yesterday. 10-21 for 146 yards with a TD and a pick. The Ravens didn't win because of him

Also,

Ravens LT: Jared Gaither (2nd year, first full year as a starter)
Ravens LG: Ben Grubbs (2nd year starter)
Ravens C: Jason Brown (4th year, 3rd year starter)
Ravens RG: Chris Chester (3rd year, 2nd year starter)
Ravens RT: Who's starting there these days? Is it Anderson?

Falcons LT: Sam Baker (1st year, IR I think)
Falcons LG: Justin Blalock (2nd year)
Falcons C: Todd McClure (10th year)
Falcons RG: Harvey Dahl (2nd year, first year starter)
Falcons RT: Tyson Clabo (3rd year)

With the exception of the Falcons' center, we're talking about youth across the board for both lines. And guys getting the chance to develop together which is huge for an offensive line. I think the argument could be made that chemistry is just as, if not more, crucial than talent.

And if they weren't doing good like last year its because they're too young..This arguement can go anyway

What has Jason done in the league? Look this is starting to become stupid. So i go back to my first statement. When he gets his shot he prove people wrong and everybody will convert.




Starting to become stupid? It's been stupid for a long time. Just on the flip side of what you're thinking. WTF has Colt done? You didn't answer the question. Why should he even get sniff of the starting job if he's not even good enough to beat out Collins for the #2???

Jason was in the conversation as a pro-bowl/MVP type player this year before the line starting giving way and Portis got so beat up.

He's completing nearly 64% of his passes, his rating is almost 10 points higher than last season, and he has nearly twice as many TDs as INTs. He's not setting the world on fire, but that's so much more the function of a new, complex offense (and a ton of dropped balls) than it is his play.

I wonder why there is no one with a football IQ over 15 suggesting Colt Brennan should be starting? Exactly.

Barring injuries to Collins and Campbell or a trade to a desperate team, that "shot" you speak of for Colt won't be coming any time soon. Don't hold your breath.

GMScud:

You plead in vain for thoughtful posts laying out the the reasons why Colt should start. Support for Colt usually amounts to an attack on Jason and barely decipherable statements like "Colt's name is kewl" and "just you wait and see." I have yet to hear anyone articulate a reasonable and well-supported argument in favor of Colt.

GMScud:

You plead in vain for thoughtful posts laying out the the reasons why Colt should start. Support for Colt usually amounts to an attack on Jason and barely decipherable statements like "Colt's name is kewl" and "just you wait and see." I have yet to hear anyone articulate a reasonable and well-supported argument in favor of Colt.

I guess I'm holding out hope that I'll either A) get an intelligent answer to my pleas for a reasonable explanation of why Colt is the next big thing, or B) someone will tell me they are just kidding and being antagonistic for the hell of it.

I have a feeling I'll get neither.