Zorn has to take some blame

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Miller101
12-08-2008, 09:32 AM
As I agree JZ needs to bare some of the blame I think that we need to really evaluate what we have at QB, I love JC but my love for him will not let me ignore the obvious. 1. Steve smith from carolina is 5-9 185 # , santana moss is 5-10 200# 2. Donovan Mcnabb only has westbrooke as a viable offensive threat , we have CP......common problem is JC, he is not a great QB he is just good he needs alot of good people around him to be successful.

JC will be successful when he gets time to make the throws he has to make.

I mean, you know you're in trouble when your head coach doesn't have any back up lineman on the bench! I mean, TWO!? THATS IT?! TWO LINEMAN? I've never heard of that crap before in my life! Not even Spurrier or Turner were that dumb!

Okay, so your stud left tackle goes down for the game so you get to have a back up center play left tackle now! OH SHIT! And he's blocking Terrell Suggs..........................Did you all see Campbell, once the ball was snapped, IMMEDIATELY start rolling out away from Terrell Suggs? He new he was hit before the play even started! He was just trying to buy a little more time, but to no avail...........Suggs is just to darn fast!

That play spelled, "Busted" in seventeen different languages! And that is not Campbell's fault!

CRedskinsRule
12-08-2008, 09:33 AM
As I agree JZ needs to bare some of the blame I think that we need to really evaluate what we have at QB, I love JC but my love for him will not let me ignore the obvious. 1. Steve smith from carolina is 5-9 185 # , santana moss is 5-10 200# 2. Donovan Mcnabb only has westbrooke as a viable offensive threat , we have CP......common problem is JC, he is not a great QB he is just good he needs alot of good people around him to be successful.

Wow, that is a great example of false analogies:
Reasoning, critical thinking (http://www.documentingexcellence.com/stat_tool/reasoning.htm)
What does vital stats of smith vs moss, or westbrooke-CP (not even sure how that comparison makes any sense) have to do specifically with JC? Using the same exact comparisons, couldn't you easily argue that it is the coach/OC's responsibility to use his best players in the best way?

hooskins
12-08-2008, 09:37 AM
I created a monster :doh:

irish
12-08-2008, 09:38 AM
If that is the case, then why isn't Bugel in Zorns ear a little bit? Or maybe he has been. IDK. It just seems silly to have an Oline coach of that cailber and have your QB getting killed game in and game out.

Maybe Zorn needs to get into Bugel's ear a bit more and get this line blocking better.

hooskins
12-08-2008, 09:41 AM
Maybe Zorn needs to get into Bugel's ear a bit more and get this line blocking better.

One of the few times I agree with you...

Sheriff Gonna Getcha
12-08-2008, 10:04 AM
As I agree JZ needs to bare some of the blame I think that we need to really evaluate what we have at QB, I love JC but my love for him will not let me ignore the obvious. 1. Steve smith from carolina is 5-9 185 # , santana moss is 5-10 200# 2. Donovan Mcnabb only has westbrooke as a viable offensive threat , we have CP......common problem is JC, he is not a great QB he is just good he needs alot of good people around him to be successful.

I am not following your reasoning at all.

redsk1
12-08-2008, 10:25 AM
Zorn was embarrased last night.

Answer: 3 minutes to go in the 1st Half

Question: First Blitz check down thrown by JC and Co. It took us almost a half to adjust to the overloaded blitz. Horrible.

Zorn seems a little over his head now.

djnemo65
12-08-2008, 10:26 AM
As I agree JZ needs to bare some of the blame I think that we need to really evaluate what we have at QB, I love JC but my love for him will not let me ignore the obvious. 1. Steve smith from carolina is 5-9 185 # , santana moss is 5-10 200# 2. Donovan Mcnabb only has westbrooke as a viable offensive threat , we have CP......common problem is JC, he is not a great QB he is just good he needs alot of good people around him to be successful.

Don't forget about Andre the Giant who weighed over 500 pounds but ended up selling the title to Ted Dibiase in a shocking display of venality. Sure the Giant was good, but was he great? You make the call.

Sheriff Gonna Getcha
12-08-2008, 10:27 AM
From JLC's recent blog entry:

Beyond personnel, the decision to use Mike Sellers as the third-down pass protector over Portis, banged up or not, was stunning. Putting Justin Geigsinger at left tackle with no help from a tight end against Terrell Suggs was stupefying, even for one play. Not running more two tight-end sets with Geisinger and Stephon Heyer as your tackles was a major surprise. Not opting to go no-huddle in the third quarter, not rolling Jason Campbell out more, not going to the screen-pass game before the end of the first half was odd.

Monday Morning H-Back - Redskins Insider (http://voices.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/2008/12/monday_morning_h-back_7.html#more)

redsk1
12-08-2008, 10:31 AM
From JLC's recent blog entry:

Beyond personnel, the decision to use Mike Sellers as the third-down pass protector over Portis, banged up or not, was stunning. Putting Justin Geigsinger at left tackle with no help from a tight end against Terrell Suggs was stupefying, even for one play. Not running more two tight-end sets with Geisinger and Stephon Heyer as your tackles was a major surprise. Not opting to go no-huddle in the third quarter, not rolling Jason Campbell out more, not going to the screen-pass game before the end of the first half was odd.

Monday Morning H-Back - Redskins Insider (http://voices.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/2008/12/monday_morning_h-back_7.html#more)

I watched Geisinger go in and was wondering who would give him some help. I guess no one did. No RB or Cooley...no one. Unbelievable.

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