Zorn has to take some blame

By the way Goat, Andy Reid was 5-11 his first year as head coach. :)

I think Zorn is A FREAKIN IDIOT!!!!

How in the heck does Zorn not understand an outside blitz is coming on 3rd and long? I saw it! AND I DON'T GET PAID TO SEE IT COMING!!! How does he consistently let his quarterback get killed back there? How can you NOT throw someone else on the line next to...........................uhhhhh the side where the outside blitz is coming from this time? All you got to do is motion it! Every third and long OR whenever the opposing defense has to get pressure, they blitz the outside and GET IT EVERY SINGLE TIME!

Putting two guys to block three on that outside blitz doesn't work. You would think someone, WHO GETS PAID TO NOTICE THINGS, would have noticed that during the Steelers game. If not, During the Cowboys game? Heck, definetely during this one!

How do you let a back up center play left tackle? And THEN not give him help when he's blocking Terrell Suggs? That was a CRUCIAL CRUCIAL play! And you leave him out there to block one of the best pass rushers alone?????? WHAT A FREAKIN IDIOT!!!

Zorn! Don't become Steve Spurrier! Don't say crap like, "he needs to get the ball out quicker". Thats not working! And it won't work until you understand that pass protection is key! As a quarterback I thought you knew that............................what am I saying. Steve Spurrier was a quarterback and.....................Geez, you suck Zorn!

I am sure Zorn is frustrated too, let's see if he gets his say in the draft. All the good teams in the league rely on good lines.

I am surprised our D is quite good with an average line. Imagine if we had some amazing pass rushers, it would be almost like Pitt's D.

We have sufficient weapons. Portis, Cooley and several serviceable wideouts should get it done. What we need is some new blood on the offensive line.

I agree, the weapons are good enough (they are not great though). Its hard to score when the line cant block anything. They are old and slow and really showed it last night. Until this team gets serious about building both lines (not just plugging holes with high priced free agents) it will never be a serious consistent contender.

Problem is Zorn doesn't usually take blame at his pressers. he comes off as arrogant at times.

Yeah, noticed that too, especially with George Michael and Sonny. There's a difference between arrogance and confidence.

Something just isn't right with the offense, obviously. Things have gone totally stale over the second half of the season. At least earlier in the year we could move the ball pretty well. Now we can't even do that consistently.

Of course Zorn has to shoulder some of the blame.

His protection schemes seem pretty piss poor to me right now and is a big part of the problem. I know people hated Gibbs' max protect stuff, but I'm longing for some of that right now and I'm sure JC is too.

And of course we all need to keep in mind Zorn is a rookie HC who's never been a coordinator and has never called plays at this level. He's very much a work in progress.


If that is the case, then why isn't Bugel in Zorns ear a little bit? Or maybe he has been. IDK. It just seems silly to have an Oline coach of that cailber and have your QB getting killed game in and game out.

Could it be the they were trying to keep it simple in the first part of the season?

- You know, "Hey we all just got together and don't know the offense, so let's keep it simple".
- Mid-season, "All right, that didn't turn out too bad, let's kick it up a notch".
- Today, "Shit, who's idea was this"?

I don' know, things look pretty vanilla to me.

I'm still a Zorny, but I am growing increasingly frustrated with his refusal to compensate for the lack of protection Jason is getting. For all the talk of the west coast offense, I don't see a lot of short passes, particularly in running situations (which is what I thought the WCO was supposed to be predicated on).

It is clear that we have an inadequate line for the gameplan we are trying to execute. How many physical defenses have to manhandle us before we make some adjustments?

Gibbs ALWAYS accepted responsibility publicly, which is why the team ALWAYS had his back when they struggled and absolutely had to win down the stretch. It would be nice to see Zorn accept some responsibility for this inept offense.

One small example where Zorn MUST accept responsibility - Samuels left with an injury, and Geisinger replaces him at left tackle. Samuels struggled with Suggs one-on-one, yet Zorn gave ZERO help to Geisinger on the first pass play that he was in, which resulted in another Suggs sack. That is a NO BRAINER - Gibbs certainly would have had a TE on that side to help Geisinger. Zorn's belief in his system when an adjustment was warranted reminded me of Spurrier's arrogance in his system as his QB took a beating.

As I agree JZ needs to bare some of the blame I think that we need to really evaluate what we have at QB, I love JC but my love for him will not let me ignore the obvious. 1. Steve smith from carolina is 5-9 185 # , santana moss is 5-10 200# 2. Donovan Mcnabb only has westbrooke as a viable offensive threat , we have CP......common problem is JC, he is not a great QB he is just good he needs alot of good people around him to be successful.

As I agree JZ needs to bare some of the blame I think that we need to really evaluate what we have at QB, I love JC but my love for him will not let me ignore the obvious. 1. Steve smith from carolina is 5-9 185 # , santana moss is 5-10 200# 2. Donovan Mcnabb only has westbrooke as a viable offensive threat , we have CP......common problem is JC, he is not a great QB he is just good he needs alot of good people around him to be successful.I disagree that Campbell is the problem. If you've watched any Ravens games during their run, THEY PROTECT JOE FLACCO. Jason is taking a pounding the second half of this season that reminds me of Ramsey's beating when he was QB under Spurrier. I hear a lot of bitching about Jason not hitting anything downfield. Well we tried on the first posession, and Campbell's arm got hit by Suggs, resulting in the first INT. When our O-line depth consists of undrafted FAs like Geisinger and Heyer, is it any wonder why we struggle? Drafting a #3 TE in the second round was a luxury we didn't need as demonstrated by the lack of quality depth on the O-line.