Zorn-o-meter

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irish
12-05-2008, 01:32 PM
While it was somewhat stunning to hear a....not generally negative appraisal of Zorn, "The I" did not miss the oppurtunity to twist the knife in Joe2's back...........

I dont think I have ever posted a neg thing about Zorn. I thought it was a great hire from the beginning.

hail_2_da_skins
12-05-2008, 01:36 PM
3. The offense has digressed. Opposing teams have figured out Zorn's attack and he is making very few adjustments. Too many passing plays that go sideways. Rely too heavy on Portis. As Portis goes, so goes the Redskins. Zorn needs to use his passing threats more. I point of emphasis should be to get Santana Moss going early. Use Devin Thomas, Malcolm Kelly and Fred Davis. What the hell did we draft these guys for, blocking downfield, running end reverses and special teams. Throw them the damned ball!

The Goat
12-05-2008, 01:56 PM
I'm still at a 5, and here's why: With the personal attention that he's giving Campbell, we will know by next year whether Campbell is trending toward becoming an elite QB, or a journeyman. The scheme certainly hasn't appeared to be the problem to me. O linemen getting beaten, WRs dropping 1st downs, and Jason occasionally making a poor throw are what's holding the offense back. I believe that we're a lot closer to turning the corner than it would appear, but IMO, it all starts up front with the O-line. Once they become more consistent, I'm optimistic that Zorn's offense will start humming.

Fantastic analysis IMO - i've tried to explain before I have total faith in the QB situation (if not JC) because of who is heading this ship.

Overall I give Zorn a 4. While poor execution along the line and among our WR corp has killed us and those position coaches need to put the hammer down (Hixon should be gone IMHO) Zorn still has the ultimate responsibility to "discipline the generals and the troops."

firstdown
12-05-2008, 01:57 PM
They still say he can't digest the playbook.
I don't know if thats the whole truth. You don't need the whole play book to use him on a few plays here and there. All they have to do is while on the side lines tell him this play you run ten yards and turn left and the ball will be on its way. Heck, I have heard of QB's making up a play in the huddle because they saw something that would work. I'm sure thats not done very often in todays NFL but it not rock science.

GTripp0012
12-05-2008, 01:59 PM
I'm sure thats not done very often in todays NFL but it not rock science.Geology?

JoeRedskin
12-05-2008, 02:20 PM
While it was somewhat stunning to hear a....not generally negative appraisal of Zorn, "The I" did not miss the oppurtunity to twist the knife in Joe2's back...........

Yes, I got that too. In the spirit of site detente', however, I chose to ignore it.

Quite frankly, and IMHO, without Joe Gibbs, there is no Jim Zorn. But that is a whole other thread.

skinsfan69
12-05-2008, 03:45 PM
They still say he can't digest the playbook.

I'm sorry but that BS. This guy was a stud at USC and they run an offense that is as close to a pro offense as it gets. I'm blaming the coaches as much as I'm blaming Davis. I'm sure he can remember 5 red zone plays.

Hog1
12-05-2008, 07:19 PM
I dont think I have ever posted a neg thing about Zorn. I thought it was a great hire from the beginning.
I know you just call em' like you see um...Irish.
..............site detente'........?? Joe, that is awesome

calia
12-05-2008, 07:40 PM
Fantastic analysis IMO - i've tried to explain before I have total faith in the QB situation (if not JC) because of who is heading this ship.

Overall I give Zorn a 4. While poor execution along the line and among our WR corp has killed us and those position coaches need to put the hammer down (Hixon should be gone IMHO) Zorn still has the ultimate responsibility to "discipline the generals and the troops."

I agree. With Zorn, even when we've not played well, I continue to feel as though we're close and our best days are ahead. I haven't felt that way consistently through a season in a long, long time.

calia
12-05-2008, 07:44 PM
I'm sorry but that BS. This guy was a stud at USC and they run an offense that is as close to a pro offense as it gets. I'm blaming the coaches as much as I'm blaming Davis. I'm sure he can remember 5 red zone plays.

Or, if he can't. he never will. With 5 preseason games (plus 11 regular season = 16 games), minicamp, etc., these guys have all had Zorn's playbook since June. No excuse for not knowing it. Now I grant that there can be a difference between knowing the plays and having them become second nature so that you don't need to think about them -- you execute. But they've had the playbook for 6 months now and this is what they do for a living!! Anyone out there have a job where 6 months of intense study and practice and poor execution would be tolerated?

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