MTK
12-05-2008, 10:48 AM
Zorn did try to hit Sellers on that playaction flip in Seattle, and he dropped it. But yeah I'm surprised we haven't seen more of that. It was such a money play in 2005.
Zorn-o-meterMTK 12-05-2008, 10:48 AM Zorn did try to hit Sellers on that playaction flip in Seattle, and he dropped it. But yeah I'm surprised we haven't seen more of that. It was such a money play in 2005. irish 12-05-2008, 11:14 AM he's not done much...basically we are running the same stuff we ran under gibbs. Portis seems to prefer it, but the passing game has stalled. I'm def. not horny for zorny, but i'm not over him either. Let's give him a couple more years (and Jason). That's what I mean by JZ being hamstrung by the talent. His QB & WRs just wont let him do what he really wants to do with the O. Portis is a different story. He has been very good considering the load he's had to carry. I wonder how much will be left of CP after this season and the pounding he's had to take. skinsfan69 12-05-2008, 12:03 PM Was a 4 but now I'm bumping him down to a 3. Is it me or does it seem like we never make any adjustments? If we can't score then try to change things up. JC seems to run the no huddle pretty well so why not try that? Plus with Davis and Thomas giving us nothing, some of that has to fall on the coach or the coaches. If we're in the red zone Davis should be on the field. Makes no sense. DynamiteRave 12-05-2008, 12:06 PM Was a 4 but now I'm bumping him down to a 3. Is it me or does it seem like we never make any adjustments? If we can't score then try to change things up. JC seems to run the no huddle pretty well so why not try that? Plus with Davis and Thomas giving us nothing, some of that has to fall on the coach or the coaches. If we're in the red zone Davis should be on the field. Makes no sense. They still say he can't digest the playbook. Schneed10 12-05-2008, 12:23 PM They still say he can't digest the playbook. So what, he's retarded or something? How hard can it be? firstdown 12-05-2008, 12:41 PM I'm still at a 5, and here's why: With the personal attention that he's giving Campbell, we will know by next year whether Campbell is trending toward becoming an elite QB, or a journeyman. The scheme certainly hasn't appeared to be the problem to me. O linemen getting beaten, WRs dropping 1st downs, and Jason occasionally making a poor throw are what's holding the offense back. I believe that we're a lot closer to turning the corner than it would appear, but IMO, it all starts up front with the O-line. Once they become more consistent, I'm optimistic that Zorn's offense will start humming. With all that close attention he is giving JC I would think he would be getting better not going backwards. Besides the game against the Giants we have not had a bunch of dropped passes. The evidence is the lack of any threads or post talking about dropped passes until this week. I now give Zorn a # which is down from a 4 because he is getting out coached and it seems that he does not adjust well when things are not working. I still like Zorn but he is also learning so it will take some time for him to adjust in his new role. DynamiteRave 12-05-2008, 12:41 PM So what, he's retarded or something? How hard can it be? I'd hope not. But that's the excuse they keep giving for keeping him inactive from week to week. I figure the least they can do is activate him and let him run a couple of plays per game. What's the worse that can happen? JC stays either horizontal or running away from defenders most of the game anyway and the only two players with consistent hands are Moss and Cooley. I don't think it could hurt to give Davis a few reps. Mr.Redskin 12-05-2008, 12:42 PM Overall my Zorn Meter Energy--8. He is no geriatric man. This isn't a shuffleboard team Im glad we are more relateable to guys in the first 1/4 century of their lives. Tutorage--8 Thats a sliding scale with JC looking like he is relapsing. But JC has HEARD alot of new instruction. Can a new dog learn new tricks???? Plan B for Brenanan in the works and hopefully Plan C for Collins will be done after this year and we can find somebody worthwhile. Knowledge--7. I think he gets lost in the hypothetical or philosphy too much but honestly, only behind closed doors will that be shown. But at the QB position he is known, how to run an offense is different from running a huddle. His playcalling deserves a potent Coordinator and is Sherman the guy or just a friend. It didn't work out for Billick/Fassel Final Product---3 By week 12 with our starting QB playing everygame this is a lateral season progressing no where. Lack of WR is obvious but sending Sellers out wide for patterns is a travesty. Never capitalizing with spreading the field lining up 4-5 wide except when we are trailing or last drive of the game really defeats the purpose. Overall liking him personally, though we never met, probably keeps him here another season AT LEAST from a fan/ player perspective. I wonder how much will be left of CP after this season and the pounding he's had to take. He knows he's loved here. He is getting a Phat paycheck. I just hope his interest in US stays the same. We need him to like the system. If we really cared about him taking a pounding we would dump BETTS and find a replacement. If Betts isn't taking KR/PR than we can find a guy who can and spell for CP. Since every team knows we won't or can't throw the ball on their top 3 CB's they stack the box it has to be hard on CP. Thats why he made those comments earlier this year. I like what Jim Zorn is doing with the Redskins.....I hope the FO allows him to stick around for a while and really develop this team to their potential Consistency is STEP #1. Our impatience causes us to work backwards way too much. I like that he is very personable. He enjoys his life and can be seen sporting a smile on every day BUT game day. Things could be worse, lets not overlooked that. I hate to relive/rethink Saunders but it seemed in both of their first years Saunders' seemed slightly more productive with passing yards and thats all we need. We need 300+yd passing a game and everythig else will fall into place with that. I just worry that Zorn doesn't have a phonebook size playbook, maybe just a 12 page playbook and the last few pages are Steve Largent caricatures. When was the last time you saw a counter this year? I haven't seen it. I saw one I think in Steelers or Dallas game and it looked like a surfer getting engulfed in a killer wave. 3 yard loss. It looks like our guys lost a step to run our sweet sweet counter trey. Hog1 12-05-2008, 12:46 PM Wow. A (mostly) positive post from irish - Has any one checked hell to see if the demons are ice-fishing?? 7-5, beating Philly and Dallas in their backyards in his first year? Even with the brutal third quarter, he is still a 4 in my book. While it was somewhat stunning to hear a....not generally negative appraisal of Zorn, "The I" did not miss the oppurtunity to twist the knife in Joe2's back........... RedskinRat 12-05-2008, 01:19 PM I'm down to a 3 on the Zorn-O-Meter. Please get me back to a 5, Jay Z! |
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