RedskinPete
02-24-2004, 05:48 PM
The trade with Denver for Portis for Bailey along with the draft pick is just too much! Plain and clear!!! A shut down corner is worth more then a runningback! That being said lets say the age and he player Portis is the trade such not have that high a draft pick in it! There are many very good runingbacks in this draft and a few Corners in it as well along in free agents ! In the past we have done very poor in these kind of deals! Another thing giving up draft picks and high ones with needs on the D line just seems foollish! What kind of D line will we have for that matter what kind of D will we have with out a shut down corner? You can't take away from paul to pay peter ever year! The good teams take mid leave free agents and the draft to build thier teams! I am not aganist the trade just not giving the 2nd round pick!
sportscurmudgeon
02-24-2004, 06:04 PM
Either the Skins have decided that they are not going to be able to sign Bailey under the current climate and so they are not choosing between a shut down corner and a RB. They are trying to get a top flight RB for a guy they aren't going to keep. And before you tell me that as a franchise player he would bring two #1 picks, the answer is no he will not.
Another possibility is that they are putting Bailey's agent in touch with teams that obviously want him so that he can get their offers and then the skins know what they are bidding against in order to sign Bailey.
I don't read minds so I don't know for sure...
johnnyredskin63
02-24-2004, 06:24 PM
i would rather see them send bailey,and chris samuels rather than the number 2 pick.samuels we can do without,IMO.he has played with his head up his rear end the last two years anyhow.we need that 2nd round pick,but not samuels,he stinks.
Riggo44
02-24-2004, 06:34 PM
I agree ship Samules out!! He is going to want a lot of jack. And I don't think he has earned it the past 2 years!
SkinsRock
02-24-2004, 06:45 PM
Don't you guys want to give Samuels a chance to play under a real O-line coach? Think about it, he has played poorly the past two years under Helton...he was fine before. Just wait till Bugel gets a hold of him!
johnnyredskin63
02-24-2004, 06:45 PM
i saw an interview with samuels in 2003 preseason,and he said sleeping was one of his hobbies.the last two years he has taken his hobby with him to work.get rid of him and save the 2nd round pick.
azskinsfan2
02-24-2004, 06:57 PM
Samuels used to be great and I think with a great O'line coach he will be again. Keep him and let the Joe put a boot up his rear to bring back the old Samuels.
drew54
02-24-2004, 08:18 PM
If it was Portis, and a second round pick for Champ, then I would still say we are getting screwed. We need more value, for Champ, at least two #1's. The Bucs gave up two 1's for Meshawn Johsnon, why wont people hand over the goods for our stud 25 yr old shutdown corner.
Maybe because Champ isn't as good as the media makes him out to be, so maybe we should just hold an auction and let the highest bidder win. Hopefully thats not the Broncos.
johnnyirish
02-25-2004, 08:24 AM
Don't give up any more draft picks---Hogs will be reassembled. :rolleyes:
Daseal
02-25-2004, 11:16 AM
Portis rushed for practically 1600 yards last year. That's almost as much total offense as we had! ;)
I don't think we owe Portis a 2nd because there was a rumor he was going to hold out either this or next year since he was a pro bowl back making 300,000 a year. Both teams get a critical position to their team and both lose a player that doesn't want to be there anymore.
The Bronco's players all seemed to think this was some kind of joke on the news!