That 2nd round pick is too Much!!!!

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offiss
02-25-2004, 12:20 PM
I still think we can do better for champ, giving up a #2 in this deal should be a deal breaker, I would like to see someone else give denver a better offer than champ straight up!

ChounsMan
02-25-2004, 01:12 PM
Unless a better offer comes quickly this is the best the skins are gonna do w/o letting Bailey walk at the end of the season....

I would take the deal & try to move Betts for a better draft pick.

Example:
Skins / Steelers trade:

Ladell Betts & 3rd rd pick #68

for

2nd Rd pick #44
Moving down to pick #44 where the Steelers maybe looking to draft RB Greg Jones out of Florida State.

"Greg is a powerful & strong RB who is an angry and aggressive bruising back that loves to run over defenders. Plays with low pad level, good speed, balance, cuts, change of direction, & experienced. A top RB prospect."

This is a possibilty, the numbers & skill levels are probably pretty close. :D

BrunellFan
02-25-2004, 01:35 PM
Who was our second round pick last year? Oh yeah, Jacobs, and how much impact did he make again?

The only RBs in the league that are clearly better than Portis right now are Holmes, Tomlinson, and Lewis. The rest are pretty much even, and this includes Green Williams, Faulk, and James.

Daseal
02-25-2004, 01:38 PM
Brunell, even Champ one of the best CB's in the league says that Jacobs is the best talent this team has at receiver. I bet you anything he would have been starting opposite of Coles had it not been for a freak injury.

People assume rookies are ready to play that year, fact is many rookies take some time to develop unless you have a real special talent, or no one else to start like the Giants O Line!

cpayne5
02-25-2004, 04:47 PM
I like the Portis deal. He's one of the best runners in the league right now, and he's only 22 years old. Having Portis back there will ultimately make our passing game more potent. This gives us a better chance to win. As for losing Champ at CB, Gregg Williams will adapt the defense to makeup for that weakness. Getting a guy like Jevon Kearse, for example, makes it so you don't have to have a shut down corner, just a guy (or couple of guys in zone D) that can go out there and hang with a receiver for just a few seconds. Portis in exchange for Champ gives us the best chance to win more ball games, very soon. If it weren't Portis, I'd be reluctant to give up that 2nd rounder, but the guy averages 1500yds/season and is only 22! He'll run for 2000 yds, score 20+ TD's for the Skins this year! He'll break every Skins rushing record that exists if he stays with the team for an extended period of time. With Ramsey, Coles, and Portis, we are a team that is gonna at least make other teams worry about. We'll have a decent defense with Williams at the helm. Sorry if this post seems unorganized, it probably is. I'm just writing off the top of my head.

johnnyredskin63
02-25-2004, 04:53 PM
i would like to see them move samuels to somebody for a second round pick.he has played with his head up his rearend the last two years anyway.i can't see gibbs trading betts,definetley canidate though.and the rock will most likeley be back.i heard the reason they traded the 2nd pick was because they were sure that they would have to spend that money on portis anyways.

skins009
02-25-2004, 05:48 PM
Yes but you have to give some of the credit to the o-line. I think they should have made it a 2nd rounder in NEXT years draft. Synder could have pulled that off if he was slick. This year's second rounder is just to high. WE NEED A GM.

cpayne5
02-25-2004, 07:31 PM
Yes but you have to give some of the credit to the o-line. I think they should have made it a 2nd rounder in NEXT years draft. Synder could have pulled that off if he was slick. This year's second rounder is just to high. WE NEED A GM.

I think that scenario was discussed, but I assume Denver didn't go for it. Smart considering the Skins 2nd rounder next year won't be nearly as high as this year. Hopefully.

EARTHQUAKE2689
06-21-2007, 03:21 PM
man we got the short end seeing that the pick was tatum bell who went off against us.

TheMalcolmConnection
06-21-2007, 03:25 PM
Whoa, whoa, whoa. I think this discussion is FAR too out-dated to bring back up. Man, a lot has happened since then.

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