There's No Quarterback Controversy

I am saying faltering for the whole '09 campaign. He will have a whole two years under his belt with Zorn and his system, as will the Wr corp, etc. Snyder's first move as Owner was dumping Frerotte, then dumped Johnson because of the money. I can't see The Danny spending a lot of $ to keep a mediocre QB around if he dumped the likes of Frerotte and Johnson.

Snyder didn't have anything to do with dumping Frerotte. He took over the team in 1999 and didn't have any say in personnel that year. Casserly was the one that brought in Brad Johnson.

Snyder didn't have anything to do with dumping Frerotte. He took over the team in 1999 and didn't have any say in personnel that year. Casserly was the one that brought in Brad Johnson.


OK you got me. But do you think the Danny is going to sign an average QB to 4 more years with a higher asking price? I don't think so. What has the guy done to warrant it so far, especially if he does falter next season?

What makes you think JC will struggle all of next year? Also, it was a mistake to dump Brad Johnson, but Gus? You realize that Gus has NEVER posted a rating above 80 in any season in which he passed for 1,000 or more yards, right?

You could say that about almost everyone of Gibbs QB's. Perhaps I'm assisting you with your point I don't know but we all have to agree JC is a little to laid back. Yea his laid back attitude enables him to be a "good" drive manager, but if we are losing and need a couple of scores....his good ole boy, laid back attitude, we will somehow get it done...just doesn't get it done. We need a QB with a sense of urgency about scoring when we are down 2 scores in the 4th quarter. not someone who will casually walk up to the huddle and casually walk up to the line and casually call the play then hold the ball for longer then 4-5 seconds and get chased all over the field to finally get sacked 5-10 yards back further.

I wouldn't rule out signing him to an extension in the offseason, he could be had for a pretty decent price right now. if Zorn believes he's the guy he wants to hang his hat on, it could easily happen. I know people hate looking at the big picture, but he's progressed nicely this year.

Why the f would Snyder dictate whether Jason stays or goes? WTF? An owner doesn't put a friggin qb/qb coach at the helm and then not listen to what the coach is saying about the qb. Seriously. If Zorn is really the coach over the next few years he'll be the one to decide what we're doing at QB. This debate over what "the Danny" will do w/ Jason Campbell is... wetawded.

^^^ Sorry for the freak-out. I just keep seeing that people aren't acknowledging what/who we have at the HC position.

Wasn't there a thread a couple of weeks ago about how we should hurry up and sign Jason to a big contract? Seems like fans want to either hurry up and sign him or hurry up and bench him. Instant gratification in football is a myth. It doesn't work. Danny tried that his first few years as owner. We have a first year coach and a QB playing in a new system. Let's get some linemen and keep building. The NY fans were ready to dump Eli long time ago. Not so much now.

Wasn't there a thread a couple of weeks ago about how we should hurry up and sign Jason to a big contract? Seems like fans want to either hurry up and sign him or hurry up and bench him. Instant gratification in football is a myth. It doesn't work. Danny tried that his first few years as owner. We have a first year coach and a QB playing in a new system. Let's get some linemen and keep building. The NY fans were ready to dump Eli long time ago. Not so much now.

Good post, and just to quote JLC one last time I think he echos the same view pretty well here:

I find it odd that a team that has over-achieved in terms of its record in the eyes of many, is allegedly being held back by the same QB who was among the top eight in the NFL at the midpoint of the season. I'm not buying it. Not even close. Fundamental issues of personnel and scheme adjustment are overarching principles, and no one player is going to overcome that.

To retard the development of Campbell, again, just to hand the team over to Todd Collins strikes me as absurd. This season, realistically, was never about winning the Super Bowl, or even winning the division. They weren't built for that. It's about building a solid program and growing into an offense and identity on that side of the ball that could stand up over time, and developing a quarterback who has the physical and mental tools to be very good for years to come.

Don't lose sight of that.

Have some patience folks.

Wasn't there a thread a couple of weeks ago about how we should hurry up and sign Jason to a big contract? Seems like fans want to either hurry up and sign him or hurry up and bench him. Instant gratification in football is a myth. It doesn't work. Danny tried that his first few years as owner. We have a first year coach and a QB playing in a new system. Let's get some linemen and keep building. The NY fans were ready to dump Eli long time ago. Not so much now.

Qb is a thankless job. When you're winning thats because its your job when you lose the guy behind you can do better. Ask Derek Anderson.

^^^ Sorry for the freak-out. I just keep seeing that people aren't acknowledging what/who we have at the HC position.

Thats alright Goat...you're just "playing" with heart. :)