There's No Quarterback Controversy

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Twilbert07
12-08-2008, 10:49 AM
So, basically, 1.5 years equal a trend? Most of those losses came during the 2006 season when we were an awful team with the league's worst defense. Come on. :doh:

Maybe you're right. I think in this win-now league, 1.5 years does say something, though. Last year when JC went out, the Skins were 5-7. Living in Atlanta, I see a rookie kicking ass, and last night I saw someone from Blue Hen U outplay our guy. I'm frustrated and not happy about averaging 8 or 9 points/game against these playoff teams. Campbell might be good in the long run, but he seems to be taking steps backward right now.

BDBohnzie
12-08-2008, 11:43 AM
There is something to be said about an offensive line giving up zero sacks, and excellent play calling down the stretch. Landry snuck up to the line on Flacco's TD pass to Mason (which was underthrown) and Rogers got burned worst than toast on the uber-dark setting. Other than that throw and his first throw to Mason that set up McClain's TD run, Flacco didn't do much last night. Their run offense (which went nowhere until their last drive of the game, when they gave the ball to McClain to pound) and their defense carried them once again.

Guys like Matt Ryan, Joe Flacco...their coordinators do not expect much from them, so they keep a simple offense installed to minimize any risks that these guys have to take. Their successes can be linked to their team's run offense (Atlanta #2 run offense, Baltimore #4). Matt Ryan also has several veterans he's throwing to, which helps in his development.

During this last 5 games, Portis has 316 yards rushing (averaging 63/game, which is inflated because of the success he had against Seattle) and no TDs. Defenses have lined up to stop Portis, but at the same time, the Skins pass blocking has been atrocious (18 sacks in 5 games, 16 on the previous 8), giving Campbell virtually no time to execute the offense.

I think Campbell's steps "backward" lie in the fact that he can't trust his offensive line or his receivers right now. Both have continued to let him down over the last 5 weeks. Campbell showed that he is a quality QB who can effectively run this offense, he needs his support personnel to step up and help him out.

Twilbert07
12-08-2008, 12:11 PM
The Bengals D is nothing like the tough defenses we've played recently, so this will be Jason Campbell's chance to shine. It will be a big boost if he can throw a couple TD passes and lead us to more than 20 points.

CRedskinsRule
12-08-2008, 12:25 PM
i got it from an article,dont know where to get the stats

k i was just curious too

dmek25
12-08-2008, 02:47 PM
good point. I just wish some of the numskulls on this site understood that...
hahaha. forget about that.

Sheriff Gonna Getcha
12-08-2008, 03:04 PM
The Bengals D is nothing like the tough defenses we've played recently, so this will be Jason Campbell's chance to shine. It will be a big boost if he can throw a couple TD passes and lead us to more than 20 points.

True, but if I am the Bengals D-coordinator, I'm telling my guys to bring the heat off the edges. With Heyer and Fabini in as our tackles, Jason is going to get killed.

redsk1
12-08-2008, 03:08 PM
There is something to be said about an offensive line giving up zero sacks, and excellent play calling down the stretch. Landry snuck up to the line on Flacco's TD pass to Mason (which was underthrown) and Rogers got burned worst than toast on the uber-dark setting. Other than that throw and his first throw to Mason that set up McClain's TD run, Flacco didn't do much last night. Their run offense (which went nowhere until their last drive of the game, when they gave the ball to McClain to pound) and their defense carried them once again.

Guys like Matt Ryan, Joe Flacco...their coordinators do not expect much from them, so they keep a simple offense installed to minimize any risks that these guys have to take. Their successes can be linked to their team's run offense (Atlanta #2 run offense, Baltimore #4). Matt Ryan also has several veterans he's throwing to, which helps in his development.

During this last 5 games, Portis has 316 yards rushing (averaging 63/game, which is inflated because of the success he had against Seattle) and no TDs. Defenses have lined up to stop Portis, but at the same time, the Skins pass blocking has been atrocious (18 sacks in 5 games, 16 on the previous 8), giving Campbell virtually no time to execute the offense.

I think Campbell's steps "backward" lie in the fact that he can't trust his offensive line or his receivers right now. Both have continued to let him down over the last 5 weeks. Campbell showed that he is a quality QB who can effectively run this offense, he needs his support personnel to step up and help him out.

I think the question should be is JC a playmaker or not? Or does JC need everything around him to be clicking in order to win games and play well?

I think he's shown that when the blocking and run game is working well he's a pretty decent qb.

prinzeofmoval
12-08-2008, 03:40 PM
I think the question should be is JC a playmaker or not? Or does JC need everything around him to be clicking in order to win games and play well?

I think he's shown that when the blocking and run game is working well he's a pretty decent qb.

Hell who couldn't be a decent Qb when theres blocking and good running? Its called Improvising. Take what you have and make it work. He doesn't and isn't capable of doing this. Next!

over the mountain
12-08-2008, 04:10 PM
I think the question should be is JC a playmaker or not? Or does JC need everything around him to be clicking in order to win games and play well?

I think he's shown that when the blocking and run game is working well he's a pretty decent qb.

after countless threads and posts about JC i think we have the question properly narrowed down (atleast in my mind): does JC need everything around him to be working for him to be successful?

most qbs can look good when the runningback runs for 130+ and the D makes the opposing offense earn their TDs.

BDBohnzie
12-08-2008, 04:16 PM
Hell who couldn't be a decent Qb when theres blocking and good running? Its called Improvising. Take what you have and make it work. He doesn't and isn't capable of doing this. Next!
Then what do you call the first 8 games of this year?

Campbell is very capable, and has improvised successfully (again, I point to the first 8 games of the year). It's very hard to imagine any QB being successful with a injury-ridden offensive line that can't block a tic-tac-toe game and a run game that has been stopped by 4 of the best defenses in the league. When the protection is there, Campbell is moving the ball.

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