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GTripp0012 12-04-2008, 12:05 AM good points. def before this year samuels would be ahead of JC. ARE is so damn hard to analyze IMO. As, I believe, GTripp explained in a game-review thread El's numbers seem to jive w/ a decent 2nd receiver. But his presence just isn't inspiring out there. Too streaky? Not enough yards after catch? Hard to say...I would say that while no WR is dependable 100% of the time, Randle El is pretty much the standard for dependability. The fact that he can pass as well as most QBs on the run, and make people miss in the (very) open field is an added bonus.
His big weakness is that he absolutely is useless in jump ball situations and plays where he is asked to make a reception 20+ yards down the field. And since he's not a big play threat, you can't run an offense through him.
But he compliments Moss very well, for what we like to do anyway.
The problem with the Redskins pass offense is this: if you can't run your passing offense through Moss because he's got unreliable hands and injury issues, and you can't run it through Randle El because he's not going to stretch a defense, and you can't run it through Cooley because Davis is not yet ready to handle an every down TE role, you really have nothing that can be relied on in the passing game. You pretty much have to play it play by play. We're pretty good on a play by play basis, but the sum of the parts is not creating a great passing offense.
Credit Campbell for not turning the ball over, because if he did, our offense would be a disaster.
hooskins 12-04-2008, 12:46 AM good point. I just wish some of the numskulls on this site understood that...
Paintrain 12-04-2008, 09:53 AM I would say that while no WR is dependable 100% of the time, Randle El is pretty much the standard for dependability. The fact that he can pass as well as most QBs on the run, and make people miss in the (very) open field is an added bonus.
His big weakness is that he absolutely is useless in jump ball situations and plays where he is asked to make a reception 20+ yards down the field. And since he's not a big play threat, you can't run an offense through him.
But he compliments Moss very well, for what we like to do anyway.
The problem with the Redskins pass offense is this: if you can't run your passing offense through Moss because he's got unreliable hands and injury issues, and you can't run it through Randle El because he's not going to stretch a defense, and you can't run it through Cooley because Davis is not yet ready to handle an every down TE role, you really have nothing that can be relied on in the passing game. You pretty much have to play it play by play. We're pretty good on a play by play basis, but the sum of the parts is not creating a great passing offense.
Credit Campbell for not turning the ball over, because if he did, our offense would be a disaster.
Well said. I think next season our passing game will be vastly improved. Assuming all WR (other than Thrash hopefully) return, we're probably going to see Moss and Kelly starting, El and Thomas in the slot where they belong. El can be deadly lined up in the slot against LB, nickel CB and safeties. That was the vision when they drafted all of those WR. Remember Zorn said that ARE would be playing the Bobby Engram role from Seattle. Engram was primarily a slot receiver and caught over 90 balls in '07. I guess we're seeing the true impact of the lack of development from the rookies as the season progresses. That being said, I'm glad they didn't IR Kelly and bring someone else in so he gets some live action reps.
firstdown 12-04-2008, 02:18 PM I would say that while no WR is dependable 100% of the time, Randle El is pretty much the standard for dependability. The fact that he can pass as well as most QBs on the run, and make people miss in the (very) open field is an added bonus.
His big weakness is that he absolutely is useless in jump ball situations and plays where he is asked to make a reception 20+ yards down the field. And since he's not a big play threat, you can't run an offense through him.
But he compliments Moss very well, for what we like to do anyway.
The problem with the Redskins pass offense is this: if you can't run your passing offense through Moss because he's got unreliable hands and injury issues, and you can't run it through Randle El because he's not going to stretch a defense, and you can't run it through Cooley because Davis is not yet ready to handle an every down TE role, you really have nothing that can be relied on in the passing game. You pretty much have to play it play by play. We're pretty good on a play by play basis, but the sum of the parts is not creating a great passing offense.
Credit Campbell for not turning the ball over, because if he did, our offense would be a disaster.
I for one believe that part of our passing problems is that JC is afraid to make a mistake.
htownskinfan 12-08-2008, 09:56 AM ICE, ICE, BABY: Atlanta rookie quarterback Matt Ryan has been given the nickname "Matty Ice" because of how well he's played under pressure. He's helped the Falcons have an 8-4 record, and if the playoffs started today, they would earn a wild-card spot.
An example of Ryan's performance under pressure can be found in how many times he's been blitzed and how he's performed in those situations. According to STATS, opponents have blitzed Ryan 91 times, and he's completed 56 passes, or 61.5 percent against blitzes. He's thrown for 729 yards and three touchdowns. He's been intercepted three times and sacked twice. His rating is 84.0 when he's been blitzed.
I wonder what Jasons STATS are in this situation?
hooskins 12-08-2008, 10:04 AM I wonder if JC has an OLINE in this situation....
CRedskinsRule 12-08-2008, 10:04 AM ICE, ICE, BABY: Atlanta rookie quarterback Matt Ryan has been given the nickname "Matty Ice" because of how well he's played under pressure. He's helped the Falcons have an 8-4 record, and if the playoffs started today, they would earn a wild-card spot.
An example of Ryan's performance under pressure can be found in how many times he's been blitzed and how he's performed in those situations. According to STATS, opponents have blitzed Ryan 91 times, and he's completed 56 passes, or 61.5 percent against blitzes. He's thrown for 729 yards and three touchdowns. He's been intercepted three times and sacked twice. His rating is 84.0 when he's been blitzed.
I wonder what Jasons STATS are in this situation?
Can't you get them from the same source you got Ryan's?
(Dallas would be #6 not Atlanta due to head to head tie-break)
htownskinfan 12-08-2008, 10:10 AM Can't you get them from the same source you got Ryan's?
(Dallas would be #6 not Atlanta due to head to head tie-break)
i got it from an article,dont know where to get the stats
Twilbert07 12-08-2008, 10:26 AM Campbell is 2-6 in December games. Late-season swoons are just par for the course for him. We better get used to it if he's our guy.
Sheriff Gonna Getcha 12-08-2008, 10:46 AM Campbell is 2-6 in December games. Late-season swoons are just par for the course for him. We better get used to it if he's our guy.
So, basically, 1.5 years equal a trend? Most of those losses came during the 2006 season when we were an awful team with the league's worst defense. Come on. :doh:
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