charlielyons
12-03-2008, 08:20 PM
The point he is trying to make is we understand what you are trying to say - you've said it about 100 times in this thread.
well then get off my nuts about it. my opinion and its not gonna happen
DynamiteRave
12-03-2008, 08:37 PM
well then get off my nuts about it. my opinion and its not gonna happen
You know, if you make outlandish statements, expect outlandish answers. And I'm going to guess that the biggest problem people are having is not so much what you're saying but the fact you're stating it 10 different ways.
You don't like JC as the QB. Okay. We get it. Moving on...
TheSmurfs22
12-03-2008, 08:53 PM
Honestly I do not think Campbell has been the issue this year so IMHO there is no QB controversy but I guess you have to have everyone in DC.
Bigreds77
12-03-2008, 09:05 PM
Jason seems like a very good person & I hope he can become a great QB but when things go bad the 1st two to take the blame will be him & Zorn. I just hope both can help the Skins make a run the next five weeks.
The Goat
12-03-2008, 10:27 PM
Maybe I'm missing something, but I honestly don't see JC's delivery as being an issue anymore. I look at other QBs and see much more quirky deliveries. Kerry Collins has always had a big hitch. Leftwich has to have the longest windup in the history of the game. Phillip Rivers seems to almost push the ball. Our own Colt Brennan has a pretty unconventional delivery.
JC's delivery has been cleaned up to the point where I don't even see it as being an issue. One thing to consider that I've brought up in the past is he's pretty lanky so I think the illusion is there that he has a longer delivery.
Lanky doesn't quite go far enough - sometimes he makes me think we have a giant "gummy man" at QB the way his arm contorts... does make for a pretty long ball though :)
The Goat
12-03-2008, 10:32 PM
The entire offense is struggling, not just him. Thinking he's the one to blame is a pretty narrow minded view. There's 11 guys on offense.
yeah, in fact i think one could argue JC performs better (at his position, respectively) than say 6 or 7 of the other guys on offense most of the time. Obviously CP, Sellers, and Cooley perform at a high level quite consistently. And while Moss can be spectacular he can also catch the dropsies overnight and somehow fail to get open for long stretches. i say JC is consistently our 4 best player on offense (again respective of position), so yeah we could do a lot to improve elsewhere.
DynamiteRave
12-03-2008, 10:33 PM
Lanky doesn't quite go far enough - sometimes he makes me think we have a giant "gummy man" at QB the way his arm contorts... does make for a pretty long ball though :)
So now JC is kind of like Gumby? :laughing2
The Goat
12-03-2008, 11:43 PM
So now JC is kind of like Gumby? :laughing2
Yeah, Gumby is exactly what I was going for but my memory doesn't work for shit anymore!
Wonder if this nickname will stick... nah :)
hooskins
12-03-2008, 11:49 PM
yeah, in fact i think one could argue JC performs better (at his position, respectively) than say 6 or 7 of the other guys on offense most of the time. Obviously CP, Sellers, and Cooley perform at a high level quite consistently. And while Moss can be spectacular he can also catch the dropsies overnight and somehow fail to get open for long stretches. i say JC is consistently our 4 best player on offense (again respective of position), so yeah we could do a lot to improve elsewhere.
Maybe you throw Samuels into that too and earlier I would say ARE, but he dropping oh so many passes.
The Goat
12-03-2008, 11:53 PM
Maybe you throw Samuels into that too and earlier I would say ARE, but he dropping oh so many passes.
good points. def before this year samuels would be ahead of JC. ARE is so damn hard to analyze IMO. As, I believe, GTripp explained in a game-review thread El's numbers seem to jive w/ a decent 2nd receiver. But his presence just isn't inspiring out there. Too streaky? Not enough yards after catch? Hard to say...