There's No Quarterback Controversy

how about Ramsey, a white QB who got a ton of time here even though he sucked. Seriously dont give me this bull, there are soo many white QBs who get 2nd chances. It's really case by case, but I doubt I can convince you that if you would even mention something like this..

Ramsey got 27 games.

Jason is on game #33 or so. However, Jason has shown more potential than Ramsey ever did. That's why the team will continue him as the starting QB throughout this season. By next season though the calls for other QBs to start will increase.

First of all, i am black....second ramsey the same guy who got taken out after 1 game by gibbs. The media loves to mention race in any form they can. racism is created by the media....the blow it out of the water....minority coaches, quarterbacks......all im saying is you will not here alot of media screaming to take out campbell(they try to remain as PC as possible)

So being black is an excuse for horribly ignorant comments? I don't see your point.

Are you saying if Ramsey was black, Gibbs would have kept him in the game? I'm not even going to tell you why the media hasn't called for Campbell's head, because it's in plain sight all over this website.

Ramsey got hosed by Gibbs. He looked promising in 03 and 04. Gibbs wanted to play his boyfriend Brunnel. Ramsey never got a fair chance.

This is only JC's 2nd full season, first with Zorn. Unless he starts regressing I don't think sticking with him for another 2 seasons before you make a judgement is absurd.

Look at M. Hasseback, Eli...both took time to develope.

First of all, i am black....second ramsey the same guy who got taken out after 1 game by gibbs. The media loves to mention race in any form they can. racism is created by the media....the blow it out of the water....minority coaches, quarterbacks......all im saying is you will not here alot of media screaming to take out campbell(they try to remain as PC as possible)

That is one of the weakest arguments I've ever heard. No one gives a sh*t about his skin color.

Have you seen the way Donovan McNabb gets treated?? Philly media and fans call for his head after every underthrown pass. Then the ESPN's of the world take the local stuff and give it national attention. "Will McNabb be traded? Is he done in Philly" has been said at least once a year for the past few seasons. He's been that team's #1 scapegoat since he was booed on draft day.

That example alone craps all over the race argument.

Ramsey got hosed by Gibbs. He looked promising in 03 and 04. Gibbs wanted to play his boyfriend Brunnel. Ramsey never got a fair chance.

This is only JC's 2nd full season, first with Zorn. Unless he starts regressing I don't think sticking with him for another 2 seasons before you make a judgement is absurd.

Look at M. Hasseback, Eli...both took time to develope.

Not to go off-topic, but my only question regarding Ramsey is this:

if he was so good and was unfairly dumped by a HOF coach then why didn't he succeed when he went to other teams?

Campbell's QB rating HAS been dropping this second half of the season - just like it did last year. He has been let down by his WR, OL, etc. He's got this season; after that his position as starter will be more tenuous.

I wish everyone would stop picking out a point here and a point here out of my arguement.....i will sum it up again......campbell is going to be a good QB, wrong system and wrong mechanics will hold him up here.........the skin color thing was in refrence to the media(they will be more PC)in attacking a black quarterback.....Washington fans as a whole are very critical of their QBs, always have, always will...How many years do we have to wait on this guy to learn to read defenses,improve his mechanics,stop fumbling...its just insane in my opinion he is getting this much patience.

Not racist at all.....Aaron Brooks was allowed to be mediocre for years..Leftwich was the same......A little more time is given.....Eli was being thrown to the dumpster by critics last year.......The media wants a successful black quarterback, if its not why is it such a big deal Doug Williams was the first back QB to win a super bowl.

Yup, white guys just can't catch a break. If only I were black, my life would be so much better. Damn affirmative action and political correctness. Where has my country gone?

Yup, white guys just can't catch a break. If only I were black, my life would be so much better. Damn affirmative action and political correctness. Where has my country gone?

Well played sir. Well played.

Yup, white guys just can't catch a break. If only I were black, my life would be so much better. Damn affirmative action and political correctness. Where has my country gone?
im not making a joke out of this like you are...just because its not your opinion, it does not mean its a bad one

I wish everyone would stop picking out a point here and a point here out of my arguement.....i will sum it up again......campbell is going to be a good QB, wrong system and wrong mechanics will hold him up here.........the skin color thing was in refrence to the media(they will be more PC)in attacking a black quarterback.....Washington fans as a whole are very critical of their QBs, always have, always will...How many years do we have to wait on this guy to learn to read defenses,improve his mechanics,stop fumbling...its just insane in my opinion he is getting this much patience.

He is repeatedly thrown into new systems for one. Also, he has improved as a professional- in TD-INT ratio, efficiency, comp %, and leadership. It's not his fault our pass pro has been pretty poor, especially recently (and his passer rating has fallen a bit as direct correlation), nor is it his fault our WRs haven't been able to get open and are dropping a ridiculous amount of passes. Most experts and former West Coast offense QBs say it takes up to 3 years to master the system. He's done pretty damn well for his first season.

Washington fans have been overly critical of our QBs, especially lately, because frankly they have sucked for the most part. When is the last time we've drafted a QB in the first round who was seen as a "total package" type of player? That's what JC is, and we're bringing him along as such.

To say that benching him a) would improve our chances or b) isn't being more widely suggested because of race is just dumb IMO.

You think Todd Collins could run out and block on WR reverse? Or run for 10-15 yards straight up field? Or evade pressure when our mediocre O-line lets the pocket collapse too early?