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charlielyons 12-02-2008, 09:39 PM [quote=charlielyons;506757]I agree they know more than me. I have been a skins fan since i could walk and no quarterback has me as excited as Colt Brennan has. I would be preaching the same thing no matter what team he was playing for. Im probably a little less patient because im a skins fan. I would love nothing more than for Campbell to light it up, but i think in our scheme(WCO)fundamentaly Brennan is a long term better fit.[/Q
Do you remeber when JC played for auburn? That was the WCO. I know you can say its because of Williams and Brown, but never the less its still takes a QB who understands how to run a WCO. Jason holds many of the recods at Auburn. He executed the WCO to perfection there. It was a different WCO but still a WCO.
your making my point for me....he is not running this one good at all....where is the disconnect with Campbell?
JLW428 12-02-2008, 09:47 PM [quote=JLW428;506766]
your making my point for me....he is not running this one good at all....where is the disconnect with Campbell?
I guess I should have been a little more clear - My point is that perhaps its not JC, perhaps it is the way the WCO is being called (caugh, caugh, Zorn).
charlielyons 12-02-2008, 09:51 PM [quote=charlielyons;506767]
I guess I should have been a little more clear - My point is that perhaps its not JC, perhaps it is the way the WCO is being called (caugh, caugh, Zorn).
Well I agree he has been too conservative as of late, but the NFL and college are 2 different things as you well know. Brennan has better WCO tools, such as a fast windup and release. Campbell can be a good quarterback, i just dont think he suits this scheme well in the pros.
Sheriff Gonna Getcha 12-02-2008, 10:01 PM I can't quite grasp why so many fellow Redskins fans are convinced that Colt Brennan is the second coming of Jesus Christ. 31 teams passed on him through nearly 6 rounds of the draft, he played poorly in 2 of 4 preseason games against 3rd stringers, he got his butt handed to him against Georgia in his one big bowl appearance, he looked awful in Senior Bowl practices, he is a convicted felon, and he hasn't taken a single snap in a regular season game. Yet this is the guy that so many people are convinced is a better option than a guy who has a 88 QB rating through 12 games while playing behind a suspect WR corps and a line that could stop a bullrushing Judge Judy? Am I missing something? Is Colt giving out free BJs in D.C.?
He might be a fine QB one day, but I have seen NOTHING to make me think this guy deserves to start a regular season game.
53Fan 12-02-2008, 10:04 PM [quote=JLW428;506768]
Well I agree he has been too conservative as of late, but the NFL and college are 2 different things as you well know. Brennan has better WCO tools, such as a fast windup and release. Campbell can be a good quarterback, i just dont think he suits this scheme well in the pros.Zorn seems to think otherwise. I would think he would know. :)
charlielyons 12-02-2008, 10:08 PM I can't quite grasp why so many fellow Redskins fans are convinced that Colt Brennan is the second coming of Jesus Christ. 31 teams passed on him through nearly 6 rounds of the draft, he played poorly in 2 of 4 preseason games against 3rd stringers, he got his butt handed to him against Georgia in his one big bowl appearance, he looked awful in Senior Bowl practices, he is a convicted felon, and he hasn't taken a single snap in a regular season game. Yet this is the guy that so many people are convinced is a better option than a guy who has a 88 QB rating through 12 games while playing behind a suspect WR corps and a line that could stop a bullrushing Judge Judy? Am I missing something? Is Colt giving out free BJs in D.C.?
He might be a fine QB one day, but I have seen NOTHING to make me think this guy deserves to start a regular season game.
Being a 6th round pick means nothing.....And I have seen nothing to make me think Campbell is the franchise QB everyone makes him out to be. Ask yourself this......Without Portis this year, would Campbell have close to that rating? Less we forget Sean Taylor had legal issues and turned his life around and into a role model.
DIRTEE 12-02-2008, 10:34 PM I think Campbell is doing a great job and I think Colt is a great QB. I live here in Hawaii and seen many UH games. Its Campbell's team and if the line isn't helping out Campbell, its not going to change for Brennan. Campbell gets big bucks and he should start until he's unable to lift the team to a win. The Redskins are doing really well, check the stats. They just aren't performing to the standards of the die hard fans.
Being a 6th round pick means nothing.....And I have seen nothing to make me think Campbell is the franchise QB everyone makes him out to be. Ask yourself this......Without Portis this year, would Campbell have close to that rating? Less we forget Sean Taylor had legal issues and turned his life around and into a role model.
It's oversimplifying to say it means nothing, it means his draft value simply wasn't that high. Not every QB drafted in the 6th round becomes the next Tom Brady. He was the exception to the rule.
JC is fighting back a bit, I like this:
Among fans' most repeated complaints about Campbell are that he does not show enough emotion on the sidelines and that he does not throw enough deep passes. Campbell brushes aside the criticism.
"People are really getting absurd with the stuff they're saying right now," Campbell said. "I'm the quarterback of this team, and I work hard to prepare myself and be a leader. You can't tell anything about how much someone cares about their job, about what's going on, from watching them on TV on the sideline. I'm not going to jump around and run around shouting at guys just to put on a show. That's not me.
"And throwing downfield -- people think I don't want to go downfield? I have a strong arm and I don't want to go downfield? I love to throw the ball downfield, but you just can't throw it downfield when there's nothing there. If you do that, then you're just asking for trouble. So, what, I'm just supposed to throw the ball up in double coverage? Then they're saying, 'Now, he just throws the ball up in double coverage.' It's a no-win situation. You just can't start throwing the ball up blindly and just throwing the ball up for grabs. That's why I'm saying, people are getting absurd."
It's true, but absurd is too nice of a word.
link: Redskins' Campbell: 'I'm Getting All the Blame' for Skid - washingtonpost.com (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/12/02/AR2008120203022_2.html?sid=ST2008120203254&s_pos=)
Daseal 12-03-2008, 12:35 AM I think there's a bit of a cause for concern right now, but giving up on Campbell is silly. The next two years will decide his fate, in my opinion. Right now he could take a turn towards being a very serviceable QB in this league -- or he could take a turn for obscurity. It all has to do with if Zorn feels he's the man or not, and if so -- how Campbell takes advantage of those opportunities.
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