Any good free agent O-lineman or D-lineman available for next season?

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WaldSkins
12-02-2008, 08:03 PM
The quick answer is no. Good O and D lineman don't become available until they are no longer good, generally.


So your telling me there's a chance???

SkinsGuru
12-03-2008, 10:45 AM
Carolina moves him all over the place. The way Evans has played though, I don't think we have a hole at LDE if we can get him resigned. Andre Carter though is a no doubt above average defensive end against both the run and the pass. So if we signed Peppers, it would be to replace Evans in the lineup, and though they are the same age, it would just be the same type of mistake we make year after year if Peppers disappoints.

We clog the LDE position, probably overpay for the guy, and then the sack production still doesn't significantly improve. Because the problem is interior DL/scheme related (in the sense that pre-snap reads are effective against us, so QBs can get the ball out under pressure).

I think the fact that Jason Taylor hasn't improved our sack rate, and has actually forced Carter's sack production to decline is about as solid as evidence gets that personnel at end is not the reason why we can't sack QBs.


I agree with this 100%. There are a lot of D-Lines out there getting a ton more pressure than ours with a lot less talent. I think i read some where that the d-line plays for the run and don't drive to the QB per Blache's choice. I would love a change of direction of the defensive schemes. I know we have a "highly" ranked defense, but do you really think they are one of the best???

redsk1
12-03-2008, 11:53 AM
BL is that we will need to spend some of our highest draft picks and some FA dollars to improve both our OL and DL. We need talent, speed and youth.

Both of our lines are getting old, which causes the deterioration we see later in the season.

Last season Vinny went for the flash with 2 WR and a TE. Now we need to go for the trenches and hope the WR we picked this season start to pan out.

I wish they provided some flash.

Mr.Redskin
12-03-2008, 12:05 PM
I wish they provided some flash.

Maybe some body glitter to attrack the eyes of the OLINE. Than, they can flirt their way past them.

WillH
12-03-2008, 01:08 PM
Draft, Draft, Draft!!!

I think a lot of people are mistaking a lack of exucution from this team as a lack of talent; I'd argue that we have a fair amount of young talent on this team but we need more, and we need it desperately on the O-line. I think Zorn and the players just need another year to work out the kinks, if our trio from last year can get their s#*+ together and we have a good draft next offseason I think this team will develop into a real contender.

Unfortunately we're still going to be duking it out with the likes of DAL and NY, but we're not too far off as it is and if we develop our young talent we could certainly catch up. NY seems to have done a great job drafting the past few years, especially on that D-line, we have to hope we can do the same.

That said, Haynesworth is a beast. I'd be totally on board for that move, but even if we do manage to sign him I'd still look to draft DL. IMHO we only really have 3 areas of needs . . . aside from wr, we gotta hope the boys'll pan out, we simply can't justify landing another wr . . . OL, DL, and LB. If we improve just the O-line we're a good team. We improve both OL and DL, we're a very good team; and if this years rooks can finally step up, and contribute ANYTHING we're a great team.

Hail to the future!!

doughtydoubter
12-03-2008, 01:12 PM
Draft, Draft, Draft!!!

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That said, Haynesworth is a beast. I'd be totally on board for that move, but even if we do manage to sign him I'd still look to draft DL. IMHO we only really have 3 areas of needs . . . aside from wr, we gotta hope the boys'll pan out, we simply can't justify landing another wr . . . OL, DL, and LB. If we improve just the O-line we're a good team. We improve both OL and DL, we're a very good team; and if this years rooks can finally step up, and contribute ANYTHING we're a great team.

Hail to the future!!

i agree with all said...haynesworth would be worth the money. BUT In the draft i would look for a dynamic lb to replace washington. It hasnt been the same since lavar left. EVen tho his numbers werent all pro he was all over the field until lindsay and gibbs ruined him

T.O.Killa
12-07-2008, 06:35 PM
I think if we signed Jordan Gross and let him play left tackle, we could move Samuels to the Right, extending his career and having an all pro left tackle to back up the left tackle. I think this would dramaticaly improve our Oline, assuming that Samuels can play right tackle.

tryfuhl
12-07-2008, 06:42 PM
Fill needs via the draft!
don't we only have 1, 3, 5 and 6 round picks?

2nd went for taylor... 4th for kendall.. 7th for ummm I forget

T.O.Killa
12-07-2008, 06:44 PM
don't we only have 1, 3, 5 and 6 round picks?

2nd went for taylor... 4th for kendall.. 7th for ummm I forget
Erasumus

tryfuhl
12-07-2008, 06:47 PM
Erasumus
there ya go

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