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Stacks42
12-01-2008, 03:33 PM
Can we please start Fred Davis? I was dying seeing Yoder catch those passes, Davis didnt even dress!

sportscurmudgeon
12-01-2008, 03:42 PM
Stacks:

Zorn has said at least twice this year that Davis is not playing because Zorn is not confident that Davis can run the plays that are called in the huddle.

If - I said IF - that is even half-true here in the 12th week of the season following the Skins' longer than usual training camp/pre-season, then maybe the Skins need to put more emphasis on Wonderlic scores when they assemble their draft boards. Learning a play-book is not as hard as detecting the Higgs-boson or resolving the Middle East conflict.

And IF that is true, then there isn't all that much reason to expect to see Davis very much next year either. If he can't learn the playbook in 17 weeks, then what makes anyone think he can learn it in 17 months?

Shawn Springs said on Doc Walker's radio show that the Skinis' defense has great difficulty covering Davis in practice. Assuming that is only moderate hyperbole, it gives some credibility to the Zorn commentary.

And that poses a problem because there is no cure for "Dumb"...

over the mountain
12-01-2008, 03:45 PM
GMscud - i totally agree that springs coming over was a "me" play on his part trying to do something, i just didnt like the way hall shook his head for what seemed like a long time afterwards, ok we get it springs, did a dummy and interfered with you making a play . . . no need to make sure everyone in teh stadium and watching on tv knew what your were thinking = springs my teammate screwed it up for me . . . im being picky and this incident was small fries compared to his intention and motivation on that late hit personal foul.

MTK
12-01-2008, 03:47 PM
I think the flubbed INT was much more of a "me" play for Springs than it was D'Angelo Hall. Hall was standing there with his hands out ready for an INT so easy that even Carlos Rogers could hold on to it. He was right in Shawn Springs' line of sight, yet Springs launched himself in front of Hall to try to make an acrobatic catch, which didn't work.

The D had been getting gassed all day. All Hall did was shake his head. He didn't mouth off or stomp his feet. But sure, he was probably frustrated. There was no need for Springs to launch himself into that play. He knocked over Hall and cost the team an opportunity at a big turnover. I know it's a bang-bang situation, but if anyone is guilty of a "me" play on that one, it's Springs, not Hall.

I was shaking my head in disbelief over that play by Springs. I couldn't blame Hall for being upset one bit.

hooskins
12-01-2008, 03:53 PM
That was so stupid by Springs, I can't even begin to how much it frustrates me.

GusFrerotte
12-01-2008, 04:04 PM
The dropped INT wasn't cool at all. I just hope that it doesn't get blown out in the locker room though. Folks have been saying we have an easier schedule now, but I don't see that at all. Baltimore is a very solid team now on both sides of the ball. The Eagles destroyed the Cards, and you know how we play crappy teams like Cincy and San Fran!!!! There will be no easy victories and maybe alot of close losses coming up. Only game that might be an easier win is Cincy and that is because they might just throw in the towel before we get to them. Then again, we might throw in the towel also if Baltimore has their way with us.

CRedskinsRule
12-01-2008, 04:06 PM
I was shaking my head in disbelief over that play by Springs. I couldn't blame Hall for being upset one bit.

Absolutely Ditto. If Springs had set up a return and given Hall a lane, we would have had great position. And I think Hall saw a TD coming, who wouldn't shake his head??

firstdown
12-01-2008, 04:06 PM
Funny you start this thread from watching the game from the stadium. After we lost last year to the Giants at home I could not believe how many wide open players we had open down field for JC just to dump off a pass for little to no gain. Even my wife asked why JC was not throwing the ball to the open WR's down the field. I get we had 7 to 10 plays in that game where JC just did not see the open WR and it cost us that game. Not sure if you noticed this but it also goes to the fact that a bunch of people state that he tends to star down WR's. He has spread the ball around in some games but that could just have been the play calling.

On that non-int I'll right that off as two guys trying to make a play and nothing more. That one int that Hall had was a great catch and maybe we should line him up on a few O plays.

53Fan
12-01-2008, 04:22 PM
Absolutely Ditto. If Springs had set up a return and given Hall a lane, we would have had great position. And I think Hall saw a TD coming, who wouldn't shake his head??

I agree. It may have just been instincts but it looked pretty bad. That was an easy pick for Hall. I was doing more than shaking my head......WTF!!!!

Southpaw
12-01-2008, 04:31 PM
-Eli must have been tutored the past 2 years from Peyton but he is executing with a brain now.


I disagree with the idea that Eli Manning is all of the sudden some kind of world beating quarterback. He has performed significantly better this season, but in his first four seasons, he couldn't crack a 78.0 QB rating. He's benefited from being on an almost perfectly built football team, and he's probably still the worst part of the offense. He's had all the time in the world to get rid of the ball this season, but when the pressure gets to him, he still has a tendency to make a really terrible throw. The dropped INT in yesterday's game was a direct result of pressure up the middle, and he just launched the ball down the middle of the field. There wasn't a Giant within five yards of it.

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