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Sheriff Gonna Getcha 11-30-2008, 05:34 PM This might sound crazy but i think its Campbell. He can't convert on third down and can't score a touch downs.
I would agree with you, if Campbell were dropping balls. ARE, Thrash, and Kelly dropped 3 balls on 3rd downs - killing three drives.
Paintrain 11-30-2008, 05:34 PM Nobody mentioned that we played some really good teams, and today we played the now 11-1 defending Super Bowl champions who are arguably the best team in football, and certainly the best in the NFC.
Thank you! Please stop the madness of woe is us, why can't we always win, wah, wah, wah..
We played the best team in football today, we played the team that all of the 'experts' said was the best team in football 2 weeks ago, we played one of the best teams in the AFC right before that. If we lose next week then we would have lost to 4 of the top 6 teams in the NFL. There's no shame in that!! Of course we would have liked to have won all of those games but just because we didn't doesn't mean we suck and the season is over.
We're still in very good shape to make the playoffs which most people thought unimaginable before the season started.
The Goat 11-30-2008, 05:35 PM Defense strongpoint-solid. Weakpoint-cannot play effectively for 48 minutes a game.
Offense-no execution. run blocking, pass protection, route running, (how many times can you run a route 1 yard short of the first), KICKING!!!!
Solution-cut the Offense, and trade for 25 more D guys to play 60 minutes on D
That about sums it up.
I will say that dropped passes alone took us out of this game. Every WR dropped at least one save Thomas I believe. I saw the ball bounce off hands, chests, shoulder pads, and the face mask. Just doesn't look like an NFL caliber receiving corp, and I'm beginning to very seriously wonder if it's something in the coaching. Dropped passes lost us the playoff game last year IMHO and have always been way too common when we try to throw the ball regularly. We've seen it over and over w/ Moss, El, Thrash. But here's what gets me: Malcolm Kelly was very sure-handed in college and now he's got passes bouncing off his hands and his chest. Somehow it does not appear the guys are maintaining eye-hand coordination - something so fucking basic i really can't believe i'm typing it out but that's what i'm seeing on gameday...
Paintrain 11-30-2008, 05:36 PM We've also played some of the worse teams, who we've barely squeaked by with a win, with the exception of a bad team that beat us. (Rams). Elite teams don't almost get beat by bad teams. Hell, average teams don't almost get beat by bad teams.
There's no reason that we struggled against an 0-12 team and lent a win to a 2-9 team. It makes no sense.
The Giants lost to the Browns and squeaked by the Bengals in overtime. Your point is pointless.
A10sROCK 11-30-2008, 05:36 PM OL is average. Good DL either stop our running game or put lots of pressure on JC.
DL is below average. We put little pass rush on QB. Our outstanding DBs, including rookie Chris Horton make the DL look better.
ST are average or below. Kicking is very inconsistent. PR is really mediocre. KO returns don't scare anyone. Punting is ok for now.
We have a possible MVP RB with Clinton Portis. Jason Campbell is good but I wonder if he can win games alone [as the elite QB do] and I wonder if he will ever get to the next level. I want him to succeed but wonder if he can improve to the top level.
Our defense keeps the score down but doesn't get too many turnovers.
We're a good team. Probably will be 9-7 or 10-6. I don't think we will make the playoffs. We have fundamental OL / DL problems that will have to be addressed in the off-season.
53Fan 11-30-2008, 05:38 PM First year coach, first year offense. I think we tend to forget that. This is going to be a very good team... but not this year. The execution is not what it will be. Simple mistakes cost us THIS game. Thrash and Kelly both dropped passes on third down. Jasons INT intended to ARE could have been a TD but was underthrown. Simple FG.....missed. Hall has an INT coming right at him and Springs jumps in front of him and drops it. This offense is making mistakes that it won't make next year. We are not scoring points like we should be. I'm not making excuses, it's just a fact that this team is not as good in this offense this year as it will be next year.
DynamiteRave 11-30-2008, 05:38 PM The Giants lost to the Browns and squeaked by the Bengals in overtime. Your point is pointless.
The Browns are an ok team. They aren't 0-12.
Comparing the Giants losing to the Browns to us losing to the Rams is pretty laughable. The Giants are proven winners, if they drop a game or two, they're still good.
The problem is the Redskins aren't even though have the potential to be.
Smooter 11-30-2008, 05:39 PM I think we're just not as good of a team as we all thought. We need improvement in some areas for sure (OL, DL) but I still think we have the talent. We just can't execute.
Paintrain 11-30-2008, 05:41 PM This might sound crazy but i think its Campbell. He can't convert on third down and can't score a touch downs.
It doesn't sound crazy, it just sounds like you don't know anything about football. If you knew anything about football then yes, it would sound crazy.
The Goat 11-30-2008, 05:43 PM Thank you! Please stop the madness of woe is us, why can't we always win, wah, wah, wah..
We played the best team in football today, we played the team that all of the 'experts' said was the best team in football 2 weeks ago, we played one of the best teams in the AFC right before that. If we lose next week then we would have lost to 4 of the top 6 teams in the NFL. There's no shame in that!! Of course we would have liked to have won all of those games but just because we didn't doesn't mean we suck and the season is over.
We're still in very good shape to make the playoffs which most people thought unimaginable before the season started.
I feel like I'm in the presser when Jim Mora went ballistic over the playoffs question. Please, please don't talk about the playoffs like they mean something to this offense. Pleeeeeeaaaaaaaaaase. We lost today in the same fashion we've lost playoff games - utterly, totally uninspired offense w/ abysmal execution and wide-outs who look like transfers from NAIA football. The thought of watching this offense play another game like today's i.e. a playoff game makes me want to kick a puppy and start drinking heavy again.
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