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A10sROCK 11-30-2008, 10:42 PM I know Sherlock Holmes and you sir are no Sherlock Holmes.
And what was wrong with what I said?
I NEVER claimed I was Sherlock Holmes (that I remember). I'm just an old fighter pilot with too much time on his hands.
Sheriff Gonna Getcha 11-30-2008, 10:42 PM A10:
As I pointed out, Jason bears some responsibility for our woes on offense. I just want to make sure the blame isn't unfairly heaped on his shoulders. Sorry if I misinterpreted your post.
Mr.Redskin 11-30-2008, 10:45 PM I think for 1 person to get blamed 1 person messed up but if more than one its a ratio/fraction. You want someone to blame just call it The Redskins fault. From Snyder to the fans. Fans that sell tickets away and sins of the father who built this team/coaches, sins of the contract negotiators and signing bonus penalties for players that took steps away from progress.
We do have a Redskin problem honestly ever since 1991. We need to fix this. This team/fans don't trust our identity instead we chose to acknowledge or address wants rather needs.
We are not a good team. Every team rolls the dice and only 1 team can win it all. I hope our Skins leadership is more solid and planned heading into the next season. We have to use this energy to get prepared for a season that matters. Playoff contention is faint if still visibly at all. We have to grow up before the season starts to not have our chances shot down.
This is when we should be reaping the seed planted in the offseason. If success amounted to how much love we cheer with sure we win but instability and uncertainty doesn't yield good results. Actually we are reaping now.
Were are Redskins fan!! Disappointment is not new or over. I've been taking lumps since 1991 but I'm still here.
Some mistakes as before mentioned have a side effect like it or not. This game was a distraction in itself with the Ring. Our leadership is inexperienced and the ratio is against us.
SKINSFAN69 spoke of the theme, ELI is stable, was built intelligently= TOWARD A GOAL we change Jason and the team around so much the ray of hope is our defense b/c that takes heart.
GTripp0012 11-30-2008, 10:49 PM I think we will finish 9-7, and miss the playoffs. But I think you will see an improved passing offense in the final three games of the season.
The defense is close to an implosion. I know all we can talk about is the offense, but the defense, although their 8-in-the-box schemes worked vs. the run, hasn't played well at all since the Rams game. A lot of inept offenses helped us along the way, but our pass defense is falling apart. We're not a good blitzing team, and because of that, I think a lot of the blame falls at the feet of Blache, who just can't stop blitzing.
I think we should go back to a zone defense. Some cover two mixed in with cover one zone under wouldn't kill us. If Blache needs to blitz, he needs to get Landry back up near the LOS. Because he (and Fletcher) are the only players on the team who can actually time up a blitz.
CRedskinsRule 11-30-2008, 10:50 PM I would like a new WR coach. That's about the only change I would change at this point. I don't know Hixon, and I could be completely wrong, but how many receivers have we gone through? How many have we developed? I know Snyder has paid to bring talent in, but none really have consistently produced. I like what I see in Kelly, Moss obviously is a top receiver, but maybe we could bring in a USC WR coach to work specifically with Thomas, remember he is very young and maybe needs that extra touch.
I don't know but I believe it was Zorn who said that coming in to the game they needed to score 28 to win. So with that as a gauge, the offense absolutely failed :(
GTripp0012 11-30-2008, 10:52 PM With the way the special teams have played, I don't see any reason that James Thrash or Todd Yoder makes it on the team next year. Keeping people around for special teams value is important, but it's hard to be worse on teams than these guys have been, and Thrash is useless against 31 defenses, Detroit being the exception.
A10sROCK 11-30-2008, 10:52 PM A10:
As I pointed out, Jason bears some responsibility for our woes on offense. I just want to make sure the blame isn't unfairly heaped on his shoulders. Sorry if I misinterpreted your post.
JC is not the biggest problem by far. Under better conditions he may take us to victory.
However, there's no doubt that QB is the MOST important position on the team.
I blame Vinny and Danny for this situation. Top Draft picks must go the the OL and DL on a regular basis. You can't just buy your way to the top in these areas with FA. Using the FA-only strategy means keeping players past their prime (see, Bruce Smith). Until our lines improve and get younger we will never know how good the rest of the team really is.
hagams 11-30-2008, 10:52 PM We can't blame Jason for all of the problems. Today we got manhandled, punched in the mouth, and had dirt kicked in our eye. After that they told "your mamma" jokes about us while eating candy they bought with our lunch money.
The Offensive line couldn't keep 4 guys from getting pressure on us. The DB's were playing decent, but kinda on their own sheet of music. LB's and D-line did a good job in the first Qtr, but got complacent after that. Our WR's were dropping balls that were tagging their chests. Our running game.....Oh wait, we didn't have one. Portis should have been pulled out of the game in the end of the 3rd. Not because of his play, but because we weren't getting anywhere with him in or out. Why risk further injury when we are not running the ball well?
We were outplayed today by a better football team. We were out coached by a better coaching staff. And on top of that, I could still hear people in the stands cheering for the Giants more than I heard our "Fans" cheering for the Skins. Fuck it......I'm pissed.
CRedskinsRule 11-30-2008, 10:55 PM Tripp, I know you break the plays down, and have way more knowledge than I do. I mean I love your breakdowns. But, I think you are being harsh on the D. what you say may be accurate. but if our offense can't sustain drives, and leaves the D on the field for nearly a whole quarter than they are going to have breakdowns. Our O never gives the D a chance, and I think Blanche may be overcompensating because he knows that our O won't score. I think GB was so disgusted with the offense today, but had to bite his tongue.
saden1 11-30-2008, 10:58 PM And what was wrong with what I said?
I NEVER claimed I was Sherlock Holmes (that I remember). I'm just an old fighter pilot with too much time on his hands.
Clearly there's enough blame to go around but the blame should be distributed fairly. The lion share belongs to Zorn and the receivers.
If you watched the game you can't help but notice has awful the play calling was. The lack of diversity in plays, the stubbornness to run the ball when there's 8 in the box. We threw down field once, once!
There's no need to revisit the past, the discussion is about this game and this season.
Rookie or no rookie Zorn is expected to win. You won seven games, great! Now go and win 1, 2, 3 more games!
If you get your hands on the ball you got to catch the rock. Eli's receivers did that all game regardless of where the ball was placed.
Where was Santana? Was he even in the game? Hell, where was Randle El? If they take Moss away do something to counter that and keep them honest. It's like this team is handicapped even when their best receiver is double teamed. Surely there are plays to take advantage of the double coverage.
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