What's Wrong with the Redskins?

Placing the blame with JC is just incredibly narrow minded, but yet so typical.

So far the blame has been heaped on JC, Zorn and Cerrato.. How about we've played teams that are better and/or healthier than us the past month? Portis clearly isn't right, the OL is struggling (Jansen is past well done!) and our special teams are pathetic.

But yeah, it's Campbell's fault and the team should fold.

You do realize that in the past three games where Jason had a QB rating under 85, he faced the Cowboys' 8th ranked defense, New York's 3rd ranked defense and the Steelers' 1st ranked defense? Meanwhile, Matt Ryan faced juggernaut defenses like New Orleans' 21st ranked defense, Denver's 27th ranked defense and San Diego's 28th ranked defense. Those too, are the facts.

I realize that Jason has his flaws. However, I also realize that Jason is a decent quarterback and it's absolutely unfair to judge a guy based on a 4 game streak. But, as a Redskins fan, I realize it's par for the course to do so with a Washington QB. We've done it since Gus was backing up Shuler and we'll be doing it until we have the next Peyton Manning. Compared to most Redskins fans, Dan Snyder has the patience of Buddha himself.

Good points but Gus got around 27 games, same with Shuler. JC is a better QB than those two and on game #33. By this time next season he will be on game # 47 (if my math is right). Most NFL QB's get under 30 games to prove themselves or not. He's getting more than enough time to win and improve himself. Yet, some still want to blame eveyone else, including Danny Snyder.

Placing the blame with JC is just incredibly narrow minded, but yet so typical.

If you consider me part of this group, I am not blaming Jason Campbell; he's a serviceable QB. I am pointing out that his play has fallen off late in the season, when we needed him the most. I agree; there's a lot of blame to spread around. Portis' incredible string of 125-yard-plus games masked our average passing game, and now that the running game is tougher, the weak passing game is shining through.

I suppose where the ball is placed for the WR has nothing to do with the drops? Tell me that Zorn told JC to throw a ball into triple coverage? Come on. Zorn has got this team to play above itself.

Zorn did indeed inherit a team with some issues (e.g., aging O-line, small wideouts), but he also inherited a team coming off 2 playoff appearances in 3 years. So, it's not like Zorn took over the Detroit Lions. On balance, Zorn has done a good job with the Redskins. I have a few reservations about the playcalling, but he's done just fine.

As for your potshots at Campbell, please review the tape on Campbell's three throws to Kelly, Thrash and ARE that were dropped on 3rd down and killed 1/4 of our 12 drives.

Zorn did indeed inherit a team with some issues (e.g., aging O-line, small wideouts), but he also inherited a team coming off 2 playoff appearances in 3 years. So, it's not like Zorn took over the Detroit Lions. On balance, Zorn has done a good job with the Redskins. I have a few reservations about the playcalling, but he's done just fine.

As for your potshots at Campbell, please review the tape on Campbell's three throws to Kelly, Thrash and ARE that were dropped on 3rd down and killed 1/4 of our 12 drives.

I agree; the wide receiver corps let Campbell down today. We have a lingering problem at WR, with no No. 2. I hope Kelly or Thomas emerges next season as a true No. 2 receiver to complement Moss.

If you consider me part of this group, I am not blaming Jason Campbell; he's a serviceable QB. I am pointing out that his play has fallen off late in the season, when we needed him the most. I agree; there's a lot of blame to spread around. Portis' incredible string of 125-yard-plus games masked our average passing game, and now that the running game is tougher, the weak passing game is shining through.

JC is good. the OL and DL are going downhill and dragging JC with them.

It's very unpopular to say anything negative about the best, 'home-grown', QB we've had in almost 20 years. However, our passing game is weak, for many reasons - including JC. Teams have challenged JC to beat them when they load up on Clinton Portis. Until we get better at that, we're not going to score many points.

JC is good. the OL and DL are going downhill and dragging JC with them.

It's very unpopular to say anything negative about the best, 'home-grown', QB we've had in almost 20 years. However, our passing game is weak, for many reasons - including JC. Teams have challenged JC to beat them when they load up on Clinton Portis. Until we get better at that, we're not going to score many points.

That's true. And the Ravens will pressure JC on every play possible next Sunday. I hope the line gives Campbell time to throw and that the receivers catch the ball.

Zorn did indeed inherit a team with some issues (e.g., aging O-line, small wideouts), but he also inherited a team coming off 2 playoff appearances in 3 years. So, it's not like Zorn took over the Detroit Lions. On balance, Zorn has done a good job with the Redskins. I have a few reservations about the playcalling, but he's done just fine.

As for your potshots at Campbell, please review the tape on Campbell's three throws to Kelly, Thrash and ARE that were dropped on 3rd down and killed 1/4 of our 12 drives.

Last years playoff run was with a different QB.

If calling JC a 'good QB' is taking potshots, then I'm guilty. Check my last 20 posts in this thread for how many times I've said those exact words almost every post.

Last point - Gibbs II was four years long with a .45 win/loss rate. That's the team Zorn took over.

Sure there were dropped balls - the WR are guilty every game. I guess they're the only ones to blame for those.

JC is good. the OL and DL are going downhill and dragging JC with them.

It's very unpopular to say anything negative about the best, 'home-grown', QB we've had in almost 20 years. However, our passing game is weak, for many reasons - including JC. Teams have challenged JC to beat them when they load up on Clinton Portis. Until we get better at that, we're not going to score many points.I agree that our passing game has utterly failed three of the last four weeks, and part of it is on Campbell not seeing the field as well as he should be.

But Zorn has put a lot of responsibility on the receivers, and between Randle El missing the final two drives against Dallas with injury, the rain today, and the pass pressure on Campbell against Pittsburgh, every part of the pass offense failed at some point.

The lack of depth is creating a paper-thin margin for error with the passing game, and it's all really hurting Campbell, who has been struggling with the basics recently.

You're blaming Zorn? A rookie coach with a better start than any Redskins HC including Joe Gibbs?

The guy inherited this team. He didn't even get to pick all his coaches. He didn't get to pick all the draft players. I don't agree with all his calls but the mutiple drops, lousy passes, penalties, and poor play against a powerhouse team are not all his fault.

I suppose where the ball is placed for the WR has nothing to do with the drops? Tell me that Zorn told JC to throw a ball into triple coverage? Come on. Zorn has got this team to play above itself.

As others have said, JC QB rating is dropping to his NFL - '75'ish average. I suppose Zorn, Gibbs and Saunders were exclusively responsible for that over the last 4 years.

I know Sherlock Holmes and you sir are no Sherlock Holmes.