prinzeofmoval
11-25-2008, 07:58 PM
Okay so I'm taking in my morning dose of First Take on Espn this morning and on 3rd down they debated the possiblity of Cassell taking the spot permanently. Warren Moon made a good comment(After week nine I guessed It)the fact that Brady is already 30+ and coming of a huge knee injury. The younger qb in Cassell is playing some good ball right now and this is what have you done lately for me league(look at the Brady and Bledsoe drama). So can Tom be dealt the same fate from the Pats that he gave to Bledsoe? If so would you trade to grab Brady or even Cassell since he's this years Schaub to Vick?
I just can't see them picking Cassell over Brady.
djnemo65
11-25-2008, 08:09 PM
Brady is one year removed from the greatest season I've ever season. He's the best qb of his generation, still in the prime of his career, and one of the great clutch performers of all time (he would have 3 game winning Superbowl drives if it wasn't for a million goofy things happening last year). Hats off to Cassell for playing better than anyone thought he could, but I think this conversation is ridiculous - purely driven by media heads who need to fill airtime.
The only possible exception would be if Brady's recovery is unsuccesful - which presumably the Patriots would know - but otherwise I don't see this happening in a million years.
GMScud
11-25-2008, 08:27 PM
Cassell is earning himself a big contract as a starter with another team. He's played a few nice games, but Tom Brady is 30 or 31 years old, a 3x SuperBowl Champ, reiging league MVP, and one of 5 best at his position all time. No way in hell he loses his job to injury. Cassell could lead them to the Super Bowl this year and Brady still wouldn't lose his job next season.
Maybe Favre retires (for the 843rd time) and Cassel goes to the Jets?
prinzeofmoval
11-25-2008, 08:35 PM
Do you believe that they'll let Cassell walk? Looks take a good look why letting Tom go isn't so crazy
1. You can sign Cassell to a smaller contract. You can grab first round pick material by trading Tom Brady leaving cap space to help fix an older LB corp.
2.You're really not sure how Tom is gonna come back from this injury. The Nfl claimed tons of great QB's with knee injuries. Many come back but are never the same. Tom has never been an explosive scrambler so with a bummed knee he's a sitiing duck.
3.The biggest reason is the Coach Bill and Owner Kraft who has made it a staple of showing the NFL they can fill any position and that everybody can be replaced. Whom better then Tom Brady.
53Fan
11-25-2008, 08:52 PM
Cassell over Brady? Ain't gonna happen unless Brady cannot come back.
GMScud
11-25-2008, 09:09 PM
Do you believe that they'll let Cassell walk? Looks take a good look why letting Tom go isn't so crazy
1. You can sign Cassell to a smaller contract. You can grab first round pick material by trading Tom Brady leaving cap space to help fix an older LB corp.
2.You're really not sure how Tom is gonna come back from this injury. The Nfl claimed tons of great QB's with knee injuries. Many come back but are never the same. Tom has never been an explosive scrambler so with a bummed knee he's a sitiing duck.
3.The biggest reason is the Coach Bill and Owner Kraft who has made it a staple of showing the NFL they can fill any position and that everybody can be replaced. Whom better then Tom Brady.
We're talking about Tom friggin Brady. Tom Brady. TOM BRADY! Tom's injury happened in the 1st qtr of the 1st game, so he should be just fine for training camp. For every player who had a career ruined by a knee injury, there is a player who came back like they never got hurt in the 1st place (Carlos Rogers for example). Cassell is under contract next year. They can trade him for draft picks or the LB you speak of, and sign or draft a backup QB.
Tom Brady is a once in a generation player. If Belicheck can turn Cassell- a guy who hadn't started a game since high school- into a good starter, there's no reason he can't do the same with another draft pick.
Letting a good backup like Cassell get away is a bit of a gamble. Getting rid of Brady in his prime and banking on Cassell to fill his shoes would be one of the dumbest moves in NFL history.
53Fan
11-25-2008, 09:18 PM
We're talking about Tom friggin Brady. Tom Brady. TOM BRADY! Tom's injury happened in the 1st qtr of the 1st game, so he should be just fine for training camp. For every player who had a career ruined by a knee injury, there is a player who came back like they never got hurt in the 1st place (Carlos Rogers for example). Cassell is under contract next year. They can trade him for draft picks or the LB you speak of, and sign or draft a backup QB.
Tom Brady is a once in a generation player. If Belicheck can turn Cassell- a guy who hadn't started a game since high school- into a good starter, there's no reason he can't do the same with another draft pick.
Letting a good backup like Cassell get away is a bit of a gamble. Getting rid of Brady in his prime and banking on Cassell to fill his shoes would be one of the dumbest moves in NFL history.
Right. I can't stand the Pat's but one thing they're not is DUMB.
prinzeofmoval
11-25-2008, 09:43 PM
We're talking about Tom friggin Brady. Tom Brady. TOM BRADY! Tom's injury happened in the 1st qtr of the 1st game, so he should be just fine for training camp. For every player who had a career ruined by a knee injury, there is a player who came back like they never got hurt in the 1st place (Carlos Rogers for example). Cassell is under contract next year. They can trade him for draft picks or the LB you speak of, and sign or draft a backup QB.
Tom Brady is a once in a generation player. If Belicheck can turn Cassell- a guy who hadn't started a game since high school- into a good starter, there's no reason he can't do the same with another draft pick.
Letting a good backup like Cassell get away is a bit of a gamble. Getting rid of Brady in his prime and banking on Cassell to fill his shoes would be one of the dumbest moves in NFL history.
We can say the same about Joe Montana who was in his prime before injuries and Steve Young had him shipped to Kansas City, or Jaws for Cunningham, Rivers for Brees. Cassell is a free agent in 09 so their will be no trading for LB and btw did you just mentioned Carlos Rogers? Our Carlos Rogers. Yes he healed successfully but he aint gonna be a pro-bowler anytime soon.
LMsexyAO
11-25-2008, 09:55 PM
We can say the same about Joe Montana who was in his prime before injuries and Steve Young had him shipped to Kansas City, or Jaws for Cunningham, Rivers for Brees. Cassell is a free agent in 09 so their will be no trading for LB and btw did you just mentioned Carlos Rogers? Our Carlos Rogers. Yes he healed successfully but he aint gonna be a pro-bowler anytime soon.
1. How many SBs has Matt Cassell won? How many MVPs? All this talk reminds me of when Portis was injured in 06 and everyone wanted to trade him and keep Betts, pretty sure we made the right call there.
2. Carlos Rogers is a few picks from the pro bowl without a doubt, he's an absolute stud. Have you been watching the games this season? He's amazing.