The Captain patch

I got a star for making my bed this morning and a star for brushiing my teeth.

The players probably take pride in having the patch. Are we going to start bitchin' about patches now? :doh:

I agree. I don't think it has much affect on their play or carries any weight with the officials, but I'm sure every player who has been chosen to wear a "C" is proud of it. Plus bestowing the "C" on young QBs like Campbell and Trent Edwards is a vote of confidence which can mentally help a young leader.

I think the designation of a special teams captain is cool, too. A lot of casual fans may not truly realize the importance of teams, so this is a good way of saying it really is a third of the game.

You're missing the point. It doesn't turn non-leaders into leaders. It just recognizes the established leaders, plus when there are issues/concerns between the coaches and players the captains often act as the go-betweens.

I seems to me that you are missing the point, the established leaders are already recognized by the team and coachs. No patch is required to know who the go betweens are. If anything, the patches are for the fans, not the players, team, coaches, or refs.

I guess I'm old school. All that matters is that the team & coaches know who the leaders are and the rest is just for show.

I seems to me that you are missing the point, the established leaders are already recognized by the team and coachs. No patch is required to know who the go betweens are. If anything, the patches are for the fans, not the players, team, coaches, or refs.

I guess I'm old school. All that matters is that the team & coaches know who the leaders are and the rest is just for show.

So what if they're for the fans? The fans are the driving force of the NFL anyway. The whole league is for the fans really. I think it's silly to suggest a player wouldn't be proud of wearing a captain's patch. Obviously the players and coaches know who the leaders are. But many of the fans out there wouldn't know who the team captains are without the C patch. It lets all the viewers know who leads their respective unit. I'm sure that means something to every player with the C on their chest.

I'll see your :doh: and raise you a :frusty:

:laughing- I'm amazed by some of the things people get bent about.

So what if they're for the fans? The fans are the driving force of the NFL anyway. The whole league is for the fans really. I think it's silly to suggest a player wouldn't be proud of wearing a captain's patch. Obviously the players and coaches know who the leaders are. But many of the fans out there wouldn't know who the team captains are without the C patch. It lets all the viewers know who leads their respective unit. I'm sure that means something to every player with the C on their chest.

I guess we could also debate the idea that the fans are the driving force of the NFL. IMO that couldnt be further from the truth. The driving force of the NFL is TV revenue. To a large extent it doesnt really matter what the fans want or when they want it, it all about what the TV networks want. If it comes down to a battle between TV or the fans the fans lose every time.

I'm sure players are proud to wear a C patch but I suspect they are more proud to know that they are viewed by their teammates and coaches as leaders whether they have a patch or not.

I guess we could also debate the idea that the fans are the driving force of the NFL. IMO that couldnt be further from the truth. The driving force of the NFL is TV revenue. To a large extent it doesnt really matter what the fans want or when they want it, it all about what the TV networks want. If it comes down to a battle between TV or the fans the fans lose every time.

I'm sure players are proud to wear a C patch but I suspect they are more proud to know that they are viewed by their teammates and coaches as leaders whether they have a patch or not.

What drives TV revenue? In large part it's ad sales. What brings top dollar for ad sales? Tons of viewership. Who views games? Fans.

If TV ratings sucked because there were no fans to watch the games, what would happen to TV revenue? Exactly.

Where are games played? In stadiums full of fans who pay top dollar for tickets, concessions, and parking. Revenue directly from fans' wallets into the teams' bank accounts.

Ultimately it all comes down to the fans. I'll argue this to death. If no one cared about football, it goes away. Pretty simple really.

What drives TV revenue? In large part it's ad sales. What brings top dollar for ad sales? Tons of viewership. Who views games? Fans.

If TV ratings sucked because there were no fans to watch the games, what would happen to TV revenue? Exactly.

Where are games played? In stadiums full of fans who pay top dollar for tickets, concessions, and parking. Revenue directly from fans' wallets into the teams' bank accounts.

Ultimately it all comes down to the fans. I'll argue this to death. If no one cared about football, it goes away. Pretty simple really.

The fans are an indirect driver of revenue but when it comes to real muscle the TV networks win every time. The NFL knows the fans are a bunch of suckers that will lap up anything football related at any price. I just cant think of one case where the fans demands won out over TVs. IMO, thats where we see who has the true clout.

The fans are an indirect driver of revenue but when it comes to real muscle the TV networks win every time. The NFL knows the fans are a bunch of suckers that will lap up anything football related at any price. I just cant think of one case where the fans demands won out over TVs. IMO, thats where we see who has the true clout.

I'll agree that when it comes to decision-making surrounding all things NFL, TV contracts and ad dollars are a much bigger influence on the league than fans.

My contension is simply that if there weren't so many fans of NFL football, the league and it's TV deals would be irrelevant. And if that's the case, fans are therefore the driving force of the NFL.

The league itself (and the teams) has much more clout over the tv networks