Why Did We Draft Fred Davis?

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fd86bro
11-21-2008, 03:52 PM
1st off i dont know really why u draft a te so high when u have cooley 2nd to all the ppl thats disappointed im telling u right now- my bro will make his mark on this team WATCHHHHHHH

fd86bro
11-21-2008, 03:52 PM
he's the fastest te on the team most athletic, watchhhhhhh

PennSkinsFan
11-21-2008, 03:58 PM
he's the fastest te on the team most athletic, watchhhhhhh

Never doubted that for a moment. He just needs to grasp the mental part of professional football, including managing and understanding the offense. According to Zorn, this is one of his issues.

Lots of players are fast and speedy, but if you can't grasp the play book and fit into the offense, the speed means nothing. Taylor Jacobs was fast too.

TheMalcolmConnection
11-21-2008, 04:05 PM
Troy Williamson. Worst fast guy. Ever.

SouperMeister
11-21-2008, 04:09 PM
Never doubted that for a moment. He just needs to grasp the mental part of professional football, including managing and understanding the offense. According to Zorn, this is one of his issues.

Lots of players are fast and speedy, but if you can't grasp the play book and fit into the offense, the speed means nothing. Taylor Jacobs was fast too.And we passed on Anquan Boldin (4.7 at the combine) for Taylor Jacob's speed (4.4). That worked out well. Hopefully Davis gets it together soon. One aspect that made trading up for Cooley so desirable to Gibbs was Cooley's intelligence. I recall hearing that Cooley had one of the better scores on the Wonderlic test. He went on to lead the team with 6 receiving TDs as a rookie, and never looked back. Athletic ability is great, but we all want to see Davis combine that with intelligent play that wins the coaches' trust.

itvnetop
11-22-2008, 01:38 AM
1st off i dont know really why u draft a te so high when u have cooley 2nd to all the ppl thats disappointed im telling u right now- my bro will make his mark on this team WATCHHHHHHH

Welcome to the board, fdbro... you're on the Wearesc board too, right? Tell your brother that skins' fans are a fickle bunch, but we've got his back... as a Trojan, I saw Fred struggle his frosh year and become the best TE in the nation a few seasons later.

Guys, this is really Fred's brother (if it's the same guy).

Beemnseven
11-22-2008, 08:36 AM
Martellus Bennett numbers:

12 catches, 206 yards, 2 touchdowns

Thomas, Davis and Kelly numbers combined:

13 catches, 89 yards

Kelly has been injured, so I'll give him a pass. But the front office has to be scrutinized for taking a player with known knee issues. And I'm not saying they should be world-beaters out of the gate, but by now, we should be seeing something.

SmootSmack
11-22-2008, 10:42 AM
Welcome to the board, fdbro... you're on the Wearesc board too, right? Tell your brother that skins' fans are a fickle bunch, but we've got his back... as a Trojan, I saw Fred struggle his frosh year and become the best TE in the nation a few seasons later.

Guys, this is really Fred's brother (if it's the same guy).

I'm almost positive it is, so with that in mind I wonder if Fred had the same thought his brother had, which is "Why'd you all draft me when you already have Cooley?"

Beemnseven
11-22-2008, 11:19 AM
Again, I don't have a problem with the idea of drafting Fred Davis per se, I just think it was a really high price to pay for what this year is a #3 tight end. Now, Yoder is probably gone after this season, and Davis will move into the backup role behind Cooley. I also like the idea of 2 TE sets which hopefully adds a dimension to our offense that opponents will have a lot of trouble with. It's also an advantage to have someone of similar talents as Cooley in case he misses time to injury.

So maybe the more appropriate question is why we drafted Malcolm Kelly. At this site we've all been saying that restocking at the offensive line has to be a priority. Guess what? WE WERE RIGHT. The front office was WRONG. They didn't see it as a priority and now this offense is paying for it royally. And, we pissed away a 2nd round pick for that washed up has-been, Jason Taylor. That puts us even further behind in our ability to upgrade the line for the future.

So the problem isn't really with Fred Davis. The blame, as usual, lies with Vinney Cerrato who looks as though he's F'ed up this draft too. I tried to play along this time, to give him the benefit of the doubt. But his neglect of both offensive and defensive lines will be the downfall of this team.

And most of us here saw it coming.

SBXVII
11-22-2008, 01:33 PM
I don't have a problem with the Davis signing. They wanted a 2 TE set. Yoder keeps getting brougt back. I'm sure Davis will surpass Yoder as a younger Cooley when he gets the mental side of the game. Which is god knows what?.....route running?- I blame the TE coach for not teaching the routes better. or is it learning the plays/play calls? If he is having trouble don't throw the kitchen sink at him...give him some good plays that involve 2 TE's and have him work in each week more and more.

Now we are going to blame the front office for not drafting O-linemen again. You must have been one of the O-linemen touters. "We need to upgrade/back up our O-line." We need a lot of things. You know why....cause they draft for best player vs. need. We still needed a WR. If we only picked up Thomas look where we would be. Another 5-10 yrd wonder. I'll agree we had protection problems the last two games. I'll also admit we ran up against the probably the two toughest defenses the last two games. but now your going to say we should have drafted an O-linemen ("which he probably would have had problems with the mental game. " Zorn's famous last words.) when you have to admit our offense played lights out for 8 games not allowing a sack and giving the best protection in the league? Hmm. I say our offense needs to get back on track and bring in a deep threat to push more defensive players out of the box. JC has to learn to throw a deep pass once and a while even if it's nothing but a ploy to show we might do it. Instead of throwing 5-10 yarders waiting for a 20 yarder plus to never develope.

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