Redskins Offense: What's the Problem?

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SouperMeister
11-17-2008, 03:32 PM
Throwing a deep ball and connecting on them are 2 different things. Also 1 or 2 per game doesnt mean he can do it with any consistency. If he was really accurate as you suggested earlier I'd think they go deep more often since he could hit that target.

JC needs lots of improvement in all facets of his game but having another WR besides Moss would help.Having better pass protection would help more. All of our receivers can get open, but it's much more difficult for Jason to deliver the ball in rhythm when he's getting knocked on his butt. I'm pleased with Campbell's game when he's not getting harrassed every play. He throws a nice long ball, and his deep sideline throws have great velocity (preventing DB's from recovering). He almost never throws into double coverage - his decision making seems solid. As a bonus, he seems to make at least one play each game with his legs to sustain a drive. It's time for the braintrust to address our weak pass protection if we hope for Jason to play consistently as an upper echelon QB.

GridIron26
11-17-2008, 04:03 PM
I get what your saying but TB makes plays in that situation more often than not, that's why he's a HOF QB. Making plays. Sometimes your QB has to make plays. JC's made some and sometimes not. It seems like more often he doesn't lately.

If that is the case, then he would have won SB against Giants..

ChickenMonkey
11-17-2008, 04:13 PM
The botton line is that you build your team from the bottom up... Offensive line, then defensive line...if you can run the ball, pass protect, and stop the run, you can will the SUPER BOWL.....The skins cant pass protect and they cant stop the run....Done deal
Draft defensive line, Offensive line, and linebackers, if you bulid it they(wins) will come

BrennanBeliever
11-17-2008, 04:14 PM
So are saying Big Ben hasn't look flustered??? Big Ben has hold the ball way longer then JC. JC hasn't made plays under pressure??? Big Ben has had 10 TDs 11 int, and 32 sacks. JC has had 9 TDs, 3 int, and 26 sacks. Steelers pass offense is rank 18 where as the skins is ranked 20. Technically he hasn't done much better than JC this year.

I'm not saying that Big Ben has had a flawless season by any scope of the imagination but what I am contending is that he looks more poised in the face of heavy pressure. He looks through the rush and is still finding Holmes running out routes and and Ward over the middle for 10 to 12 yard chunks with relative accuracy. Would I rather have Ben than JC at this point in the season. Absolutely. The game isn't played in the stat column.

SirClintonPortis
11-17-2008, 05:27 PM
Yeah, and Colt would be more poised than Campbell with the shoddy protection the OL is providing. Yeah right. I expect to him crack against a team like the Giants and perform like he did in the Sugar Bowl highlights I saw.

GTripp0012
11-17-2008, 05:34 PM
I'm not saying that Big Ben has had a flawless season by any scope of the imagination but what I am contending is that he looks more poised in the face of heavy pressure. He looks through the rush and is still finding Holmes running out routes and and Ward over the middle for 10 to 12 yard chunks with relative accuracy. Would I rather have Ben than JC at this point in the season. Absolutely. The game isn't played in the stat column.Ben is phenominal outside of the pocket, but he doesn't see the field nearly as well as he needs to inside of it. He's like the reverse Tom Brady.

skinsnut
11-17-2008, 05:37 PM
Someone mentioned shotgun...I mentioned this like a month ago....and we rarely see it.
Rollouts are rare too.

One thing about Gibbs, when the Oline needed help, he adjusted.

Zorn does not adjust....his "Rookiness" has been showing for a month.
That is why when everyone was saying he was a "5" out of 5....I still graded him a 3.
He hasn't been tested yet....now, he has been a couple games straight and he just has not kept ahead of the curve.

He better get his crap together soon or we may just be vanilla all the way out of the playoff race.

CrackBack
11-17-2008, 05:42 PM
John Madden pointed out the problem really well last night.

With all the slant patterns and no shots downfield, defenses are starting to play us close, not worrying about the deep threat. I realize that this is the WCO style, but until we prove that we have a valid deep threat in the playbook (we bviously have the personel with Moss) we will nto be successful.

skinsnut
11-17-2008, 05:43 PM
and....how the HELL do you LOSE to the Cowboys at home when it would essentially be a 3 game difference and a loss makes it a tie?

Portis played injured, so did Washington and others. Where the HELL is the fire?
Doesn't Zorn get it?
He obviously does not feel the way we do about the cowboys.
If you cant get up to drive a nail in the coffin of your hated enemies at home, you never will...I am pissed and depressed....I just dont see how this team gets their crap together unless Zorn radically changes playcalling/protection and/or some unknown offensive player breaks out...(and it aint gunna be thomas).

I AM REALLY PISSED OFF TODAY.
I need a beer.

SouperMeister
11-17-2008, 06:06 PM
Ben is phenominal outside of the pocket, but he doesn't see the field nearly as well as he needs to inside of it. He's like the reverse Tom Brady.Great analogy GTripp. Roethlisberger looked lost in the pocket when Blache threw blitzes at him almost every play. The difference with Leftwich was glaring. Byron made his reads and fired in rhythm while the blitz distracted Ben into trying to buy time with his mobility.

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