Redskins Offense: What's the Problem?

Not using this as an excuse, but how did the line judge miss not one, but two Dallas neutral zone violations? On the 2nd missed call (3rd and 8 at the end of the 3rd quarter), Ware clearly jumped early and was in the neutral zone with the ball was snapped. Jason flipped a pass to Cooley for a minimal gain that set up the punt leading to the game winning Dallas drive. At minimum, the Skins should have had a 3rd and 3 opportunity to maintain possession. Again, not the reason we lost, but is there an easier call in the NFL than the line judge monitoring the neutral zone? I'm stunned that the LJ missed two such calls.


I saw that too. There were also quite a few times when the cowgirls were holding and it wasn’t called either. All and all just a bad night for the burgundy and gold

i think the problems are a combination of everything, when you have problems are every level of your offense they compound each other.

seems every week coach zorn is pointing out plays where we had a long ball called then explaining for one reason or another why it never materialized. just speculation on my part but aside from pass pro problems and a lack of depth at wr, i think JC only throws the long ball if he has single coverage and he actually sees his man open. JC might be too gun shy given gibbs pounded it into his head to protect the ball and throw sideline.

the play he lofted it up to moss who almost made a play on the ball was JC throwing it up there b/c he had to given the situation.

Maybe JC is being too selective when he wants to throw the long ball, only wanting to let it go when a guy is wide open?
i dont know, but we have problems now that he run game has slowed down.

go skins!!

With JC always being told to check down, I wonder if he's doing it too much. I don't buy this, never having time to go long stuff. The line is not blocking well, I DEFINITELY agree with that, but it's a lot harder to block when you wait to throw long until later in the game because you have to because you're behind and nothing else is working. If you start throwing long occasionally early in the game, the "D" does'nt start stacking the line right away which opens up the run and shorter passes. If people on this board are saying we don't throw long because we don't have time, I would imagine DC's are saying the same thing. Makes it pretty easy to gameplan us. Whether it's completed or not you have to take a shot and you have to do it earlier than we've been doing it. Our offense is pretty easy to read right now. The Redskins don't go long. It's kinda like the lottery, you can't win if you don't play. Well you can't complete a long pass if you don't THROW a long pass. Give your quarterback and receivers a chance to make a play. We're taking that away ourselves by not attempting it. And I don't mean calling it then checking down. Throw the damn ball. That's what sends the message.

I guess this is why I'm so freakin sick of this offense. JC needs to be in shotgun a little more ( maybe on 1st down) and let's start trying to get the ball down field a little more. We've got a deep ball thrower yet all we do is throw 5 yard passes.

Easier said than done. It's not just a matter of choosing to throw the ball downfield. Of course Zorn wants to throw the ball downfield if he can.

But if the line is pass protecting like shit then even if a receiver is getting deep, Campbell is going to check down to a hot or he's just going to throw it away.

And even when the line holds up, a WR has to get separation or Campbell will check it down.

You have to solidify the fundamentals before you can criticize Zorn's play calling. If the line is a seive, you can't blame him for calling 3 and 5 step drops. It all starts up front, and they didn't do their job last night. Ratliff owned Rabach and Randy Thomas. Ware did a good job on Samuels, and Jansen was continually pushed straight back into Campbell.

Easier said than done. It's not just a matter of choosing to throw the ball downfield. Of course Zorn wants to throw the ball downfield if he can.

But if the line is pass protecting like shit then even if a receiver is getting deep, Campbell is going to check down to a hot or he's just going to throw it away.

And even when the line holds up, a WR has to get separation or Campbell will check it down.

You have to solidify the fundamentals before you can criticize Zorn's play calling. If the line is a seive, you can't blame him for calling 3 and 5 step drops. It all starts up front, and they didn't do their job last night. Ratliff owned Rabach and Randy Thomas. Ware did a good job on Samuels, and Jansen was continually pushed straight back into Campbell.

That's why we need to do it on 1st down. I remember once JC found ARE over the middle for 20 on first down. Also sometimes you just need to throw and try and make a play. I think the play that pissed me off the most was when Dallas' 2nd string TE made a play even though Horton had him covered. Sometimes you just have to throw it down there and either let your guy make a play or get a PI. Also maybe Zorn needs to adjust. Max protect of start rolling JC out some more. Yes the protection was bad but I didn't see us adjusting to what Dallas was doing.

When's the last time he's hit a deep ball? If Moss isnt open than there is no deep ball. You are correct about his short and intermediate balls, they are ok at best.

JC avoided pressure and hit Moss square in the hands on a beautifully thrown deep ball last night, and Moss just flat dropped it. That's not on Jason.

Dig route, curl route, slant, flanker screen. How many times are we going to be inundated with these same dysfunctional offencive(the misspelling is intended) philosophies. IT DOES NOT WORK. When Spurrier did it, it didn't work, the same with Turner and Gibbs. The conservative game should only be played with a substantial lead and its primary function is to eat clock, slow the pace of the game, and allow limited touches for your opponent. You don't win with it as the genesis for your weekly gameplan. Now Zorn may exclaim in his press conferences that he intends to stretch the feild and take some shots, but until I see as a chess move and not out of sheer desperation, I'm not buying.

Granted the offensive line are missing blitz blocking assignments and are ripidly eroding when they fall back into pass pro, but we aren't the only team in the nfl that embodies this malignant malfunction. Take the Steelers for example. Their line breaks down all the time but Big Ben still finds a way to make plays, down feild. Campbell just looks more flustered as the season progresses, and this is the time when the great ones normally find their rhythm, and stride. I don't want hear, "Its his first season in this system, be patient he'll come around." Intangibles don't blossom out of the clear blue, they are ingrained and inherent and don't see them.

Our offense, without Portis at 100 percent, and without a No. 2 receiver, is impotent. Opposing teams now know what to do: Pressure Campbell, period. JC is a good QB, but is not yet at the point where he can beat hard-hitting defenses without a solid running game.

I love how people seem to think that Campbell is the only quarterback that has trouble playing against a good pass rush. Ask Tom Brady how easy it is to execute on offense, with constant pressure in his face.

I love how people seem to think that Campbell is the only quarterback that has trouble playing against a good pass rush. Ask Tom Brady how easy it is to execute on offense, with constant pressure in his face.

I get what your saying but TB makes plays in that situation more often than not, that's why he's a HOF QB. Making plays. Sometimes your QB has to make plays. JC's made some and sometimes not. It seems like more often he doesn't lately.

JC avoided pressure and hit Moss square in the hands on a beautifully thrown deep ball last night, and Moss just flat dropped it. That's not on Jason.

I was wondering when was the last time they completed one, not the last time they came close to completing one. I suspect its been awhile.

I've been thinking about this for a while, and I know im going to get killed for saying it but...... Maybe Joe Bugel needs to go, not now today, but after this season. for 4-5 years it has been said that the strength of this team is the O-line, but pass protection has been an issue since hes been here.

Look how Russ Grim built the O-line in Arizona and Pittsburg for that matter. Kurt Warner has all day to throw the ball, JC has 2 maybe 3 seconds, thats just crap. Maybe its technique, I just cant believe that this issue cant or hasnt been resolved. The SKins have paid a hefty price for this line and at this point its one of the worst in pass blocking.