Redskins Offense: What's the Problem?

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cdskins26
11-19-2008, 10:23 AM
If we cannot protect the QB, we cannot generate offense, and therefore cannot score points.

A10sROCK
11-19-2008, 02:55 PM
OL is the key; although there are other problem areas. Teams know we are a running team and are playing against that - making our OL look worse.

WR dropping a lot of balls.

Jason Campbell is good, but does not do well with a pass rush. He needs time for a play to develop; which may always be a problem for him.

GoSkins!
11-19-2008, 03:17 PM
I have to say that it is a combination of offensive line, play calling, and turnovers. We are moving the ball, but we are doing it without getting chunks (like Gibb's used to talk about). We can see that doing it this way requires the margin of error to be so small that it is almost impossible to score TD's regularly. It is exactly what our defense makes other teams do so that we can hold them to low scores.
We need to see if we can trust Devin Thomas in a couple of jump ball situations. If we can, that creates serious pressure on defenses to have to cover him and Moss.
We can usually get the time to throw deep when we go play action and roll Jason out. That is on the coaches. Also, we don't try teh long ball enough. That is on the coaches.
Turnovers is on the players. Also, Rabach and Jansen are stuggling on the line in pass protection. One of the two needs to raise his level of play for us to go very far.

CRedskinsRule
11-19-2008, 04:44 PM
I wish people would stop saying we don't TRY the long ball. If you define try as JZ calling a long ball, I think we have been trying. We just haven't been successful due to overthrows, dropped balls, wrong routes or bad pass blocking. Maybe we should do more, but when they've been called, we just haven't executed. (also maybe thats why the O is slowing down, cuz he is trying to get these type plays into the offense more than he did at first)

WaldSkins
11-19-2008, 04:48 PM
For the season, we're significantly above average in Offensive DVOA fwiw:

FOOTBALL OUTSIDERS: Football analysis and NFL stats for the Moneyball era - Authors of Pro Football Prospectus 2008 (http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/teamoff)

I think any "problems" with the offense has to be based on the last two games in which we 1) looked utterly pathetic, 2) turned the ball over three times, 3) made no major plays down the field, and 4) generally did not move the ball regardless of field position.

My question to everyone on the Warpath (pun intended) is this: since we're so concerned about the state of the offense to the point that we can't mention everything else, what makes these last two games more meaningful to us than the prior seven. Because seven is a bigger number than two.

Might it just be just because these games are fresh in our minds? Because the Cowboys game was coming off a bye week (ignoring of course that the 'Boys were also coming off bye), because it was the Cowboys in general?

Or might we just be overreacting to the issues on the offensive side of the ball...

We certainly have been horseshit on offense lately, but with the exact same players, we've been great. Can't it be turned around?



When were we great???

dmvskinzfan08
11-19-2008, 06:52 PM
O-LINE SUCKS!! Plus we need a solid secondray receiver. I hope Malcom or Devin can step up. ARE hasn't produced lately. He is at best playing at the level of a 3rd or 4th receiver..

GTripp0012
11-19-2008, 08:23 PM
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When were we great???Games 2-5, and sporatically in games 6-8 (usually only in the 4th Qtr).

53Fan
11-19-2008, 09:17 PM
I wish people would stop saying we don't TRY the long ball. If you define try as JZ calling a long ball, I think we have been trying. We just haven't been successful due to overthrows, dropped balls, wrong routes or bad pass blocking. Maybe we should do more, but when they've been called, we just haven't executed. (also maybe thats why the O is slowing down, cuz he is trying to get these type plays into the offense more than he did at first)
I can't speak for anyone else, but when I'm talking about stretching the field by going long, I mean throwing it, not just calling it. I know I know, we can't throw it if we don't have time, we can't throw it if the players aren't running the correct routes, etc. What I mean is this. Romo threw a pass into tight coverage to a rookie tightend and won the game. Horton was on the receiver like white on rice and he threw it anyway. It won them the game. Would JC have thrown the ball in the exact circumstance or would he have checked down? Sometimes you have to take a chance and at least let the defense know you are going to take a shot. JC is doing what he's told. Sometimes you need to go for it and give your receiver a chance to make the play. Some people would say we do try. Did'nt we throw to Santana and he dropped it? That's one play out of a whole game. ONE. And if he would of held it, we might have won the game. I'd say that makes it worth the try. Are we so good that we don't need to take chances? I don't think so. If we continue to just take what the defense gives us, we're in trouble because lately they have'nt been giving us s**t. We can't always allow the defense to dictate the play of our offense. From what I've been reading I believe we are going to try to open things up a little bit and maybe get Kelly and Thomas a little more involved in the offense. I think we're at the point of doing it out of neccessity, not because it's a perfect situation or the rooks know all their stuff now or we have the perfect coverage on our receivers. To move forward, sometimes you just have to go for it. I'm really HOPING the o-line starts stepping up, maybe completing a few 15-20-25 yard passes will keep the opponents "D" from bringing the farm every down.

SirClintonPortis
11-19-2008, 09:41 PM
I think QB accuracy decreases when their vision is obscured. That translates into picks and if that happens, expect more of the same from the enemy defense. Also, I think Campbell actually had time on that play. Anytime a 5 or 4 WR set is used, I get the feeling Campbell is going to be under pressure and the play will fail miserably.

ArcticRed
11-19-2008, 11:32 PM
This year seems nearly the same as last year, the skins move the ball fairly well between the 20s but struggle in the redzone. Last year many of us were saying the same thing, we need a 2nd receiver or the oline as JC was being harrased alot.

My question is why is it when TC stepped in and our offense did better, including the redzone?

My thought is that JC was/still is reluctant to take chances. I think not having a 2nd receiver or oline contributes it, but how much is it their fault and how much of it is JCs?

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