Obama's Chief of Staff Promoting Mandatory Defense Training

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saden1
11-13-2008, 08:36 PM
Amendment 13 of the United States Constitution:

"Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction."

Sounds pretty damn unconstitutional if you ask me.

But then, that's never stopped anybody.

You mean to tell me Republican "leaders" and future "leaders" don't have to fake a medical problems or pretend to be going to school to get out of being draft or serving?

J1UYquKlfT0

KLHJ2
11-13-2008, 08:49 PM
You mean to tell me Republican "leaders" and future "leaders" don't have to fake a medical problems or pretend to be going to school to get out of being draft or serving?

J1UYquKlfT0

I have asthma too. I got a waiver thanks to all of those years I spent playing football.

EternalEnigma21
11-13-2008, 08:58 PM
what I took from that video was the part about how if we didn't have abortions, we would not need illigal immigrants to work those jobs...

there are so many nuts on both sides of the fence a squirrel wouldn't know which side to jump off on.

KLHJ2
11-13-2008, 09:06 PM
what I took from that video was the part about how if we didn't have abortions, we would not need illigal immigrants to work those jobs...

there are so many nuts on both sides of the fence a squirrel wouldn't know which side to jump off on.

I did not realize that there were people in high places that are that dumb.
I gave Bush, Palin, Cheyne, and McCain more credit than that.

saden1
11-13-2008, 10:21 PM
I did not realize that there were people in high places that are that dumb.
I gave Bush, Palin, Cheyne, and McCain more credit than that.

It's one thing to be a flaming-liberal-socialist-anti-corporation-tree-hugger, hell, even communist, it's another thing to be borderline retarded. Or perhaps they're playing the odds seeing how they actually get people to vote for them. The mind numbing insanity is unbelievable.

70Chip
11-14-2008, 12:18 PM
When I was in the Army, I served in Germany where the men had a 2yr compulsory obligation. Guess what, they looked at it with pride and a sense of duty to country. Every German man I knew felt that way (I married a German, lived on the economy ...) It's not a bad thing.


I'm not sure we should look to the Germans as role models in this area.

That Guy
11-15-2008, 02:17 AM
it's really not that big a deal and maybe it'd cut down on the whining and super ultra PC crowd.

It'll never pass, but 3 months isn't like the 2 years most other country do.

That Guy
11-15-2008, 02:18 AM
I'm not sure we should look to the Germans as role models in this area.

yeah, cause it's still 1935 in your eyes, right? seriously :/.

Mr.Redskin
11-29-2008, 12:22 AM
Well, currently we are the only all volunteer military in the world. Everywhere else there is a mandatory 2 years of service. The rest of the world does not seem to feel as if their liberty is being taken away. The only reason that people would bitch about doing it is because no one ever had to do it prior to now.

Come on, it's only 3 months versus 2 years and there are always exceptions to "mandatory training".

Of course, I wouldn't have to do it so I really don't care. I have already served my country. But honestly I would have to tell you that I always felt that 2 years of Federal service should be required of Americans too. Politicians on the other hand always revert back to believing that an all volunteer Military is better. You guys could get off clean with only 3 months. That’s just enough training to go out there and get your asses whooped respectfully. Three months isn’t bad at all, stop crying. Besides it isn’t even a Bill yet.

Than explain what a free society is ? B/c Gov't doens't own its citizens. Or would you prefer to burn the constitution and re-write it with a pencil to erase at later use?

Only change Obama will bring is a slightly less obscure vision of the same. He is an 11th cousin to Bush/8th cousin to Chaney. Same game different day.

Ron Paul 2012.

RedskinRat
12-03-2008, 11:19 PM
Well, currently we are the only all volunteer military in the world. Everywhere else there is a mandatory 2 years of service.

What utter bollocks! Where are you getting your numbers from? I was part of the UK's volunteer force, and there's about another 60 countries where it's volunteer only.

Please post proof or stop making idiotic statements.

Volunteer military - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volunteer_military)

:rant:

As for the Bundeswehr:

German Army Drinks and Smokes Too Much, Ombudsman Says | Germany | Deutsche Welle | 04.03.2008 (http://www.dw-world.de/dw/article/0,2144,3167049,00.html)


Reinhold Robbe's 2008 report, which he presented to his employer, the German parliament, on Tuesday, March 4, said that more than 40 percent of the country's soldiers were overweight and over 70 percent were regular smokers. Sports often played a minor role in the army, and the soldiers' physical abilities were alarming, the ombudsman said. The German army was suffering from the effects of a passive lifestyle.

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