REDSKIN2
09-07-2004, 05:35 PM
I think that the 83 team that lost to the Raiders in terms of on paper talent was not only the best team in Redskins history but maybe NFL History more so than the 1984 49ers who went 15-1. In my over 20 years of watching NFL football, I just don't remember a team that was so explosive and loaded and deep on both the offensive and defensive and special teams sides of the ball. It's too bad they totally came undone in SB 18.
But I think the official title of the Skins best team ever goes to the 91 team. In the end they got it done and the 83 team didn't. On paper talent alone doesn't get it done.
offiss
09-07-2004, 05:39 PM
The '83 team went 14-2. The two losses were by a combined 2 points.
31-30 to Dallas, and 48-47 to Green Bay.
Of course, we all know what happened against the Raiders. How did they ever lose that game especially considering how great the Skins were that season?
Very simple our secondary was horrible, Green was in his first year and still learning, the rest of the guy's couldn't cover if their lives depended on it, we just out scored every one that year.
I think this year's team over all, could be as talented as any team Gibb's has coached.
itvnetop
09-07-2004, 06:08 PM
the 91 team dominated in every facet of the game!
SKINSnCANES
09-07-2004, 06:21 PM
I think you could argue the 91 team was one of the best ever for any team.
I watched a special on the NFL network on them and I forgot how dominating they were. Didnt they shut out the other team for like 6 or 8 weeks? That either half the season, or nearly half went by without the other team even scoring on them.
SmootSmack
09-07-2004, 06:46 PM
A couple of stats about that 1983 team that I don't think have been mentioned here and are truly jaw dropping stats-first of all they scored well over 500 points. It might still be a record, unless the Rams broke it recently. And the other amazing stat is a +43 turnover ratio. Think about that. +43! That's just sick
Paintrain
09-07-2004, 06:58 PM
My bad, I "forgot" about the '91 team.. I don't consider Rypien supremely talented, he was just amazing that year so that's why I ignored them.. That was a great team though..
offiss
09-07-2004, 07:13 PM
A couple of stats about that 1983 team that I don't think have been mentioned here and are truly jaw dropping stats-first of all they scored well over 500 points. It might still be a record, unless the Rams broke it recently. And the other amazing stat is a +43 turnover ratio. Think about that. +43! That's just sick
Actually the viking's broke it.
Gmanc711
09-07-2004, 07:27 PM
1991 or 1999 teams are the only ones I have seen. I was still like 6 in 91 so I didnt really understand.
monk81
09-07-2004, 07:58 PM
Although personality wise the 82 were my favorite, the 91 team was no slouch either.
I have the SuperBowl Program (no I didn't go to the game, I ordered it from the NFL)
pretty remarkable.....Ernest Byner was the Redskin's primary ball carrir and gained 1,048 yds for the 3rd time in his 8 year career and was selected to his second pro-bowl. Then comes Ricky Ervins, Ervins led all NFC rookie running backs with 680 yds. In short yardage the Skins relied on Riggs, usally supported by a trio of tight ends. Riggs in the warhead in the Skins Jumbo set. The tight ends, Don Warren, Ron Middleton, Terry Orr, and James Jenkins figure prominetly in the Redskins blocking scheme. Of Orr's 10 receptions 4 were for touchdowns. Because of the protection Rypien receives he is rarely flushed from the pocket. The Redskins vertical passing attack includes deep pass patterns, frequently on play-action, set up by a numbing ball control ground game. The primary WR targets Art Monk and Gary Clark who combined for 141 catches and 18 touchdowns in the 91 season. When the Skins go in a 3rd receive set the 2 are joined by Ricky Sanders, a sure handed veteran who contributed 45 receptions and 5 touchdowns in the regular season. Rypien enjoys the best pass protection in the NFL. He was sacked only 7 times all season. Rypien blossomed in 91 when he fully embraced the disciplined system of head coach Joe Gibbs. He quit forcing passes into double coverage and threw the ball away in the face of a heavy rush. The Redskins defense ranked 3rd in the NFL against the run.The D line was a solid group-Charles Mann, Fred Stokes, Eric Williams, and Tim Johnson. LBs-Andre Collins and Wilber Marshall. Danny Copeland and Brad Edwards were the pair of free agent safeties, both sure tacklers, who aggressively come up and support the run defense. Special teams-like a fine wine Chip Lohmiller gets better each year, he lad the NFC in scorring and field goals in 1990, in 1991 shared the field goal lead with Miami's Pete Stoyanovich. Brian Mitchell was 2nd in the league on punt returns, and 8th in the NFC in kickoff returns. Gibbs and his superb coaching staff (Richie Petitbon deserves special mention on defense) have taken these disparate parts and made them into a powerful force. This is a team that plays even better than the sum of it's considerable parts because it plays together, because it is always well prepared, because it almost never makes costly errors.
MY NOTE--Let's hope Gibbs, coaching staff, and team do it again like they did in 91...
:D :httr:
Paintrain
09-07-2004, 09:12 PM
Rypien enjoys the best pass protection in the NFL. He was sacked only 7 times all season.
Imagine if Ramsey saw that stat? He'd cream his pants..