BleedBurgundy
11-06-2008, 11:49 PM
Saden:
BB:
Polls show that same sex marriage bans are going to go the way of T-Rex within the next few years. Whereas people over 40 tend to oppose gay marriage in overwhelming numbers, the opposite is true for people under 40. So, citing support for gay marriage bans is a bit of a double-edged sword.
I would also like to ask you why you think same sex couples should be barred from adopting kids. Keep in mind that thousands upon thousands of kids are waiting to be adopted and many of them will never have families to call their own. That you would prefer a kid to never having any family whatsoever in his/her entire life to having a same sex couple as parents is breathtaking in its heartlessness.
Finally, aside from saying that homosexuality is unnatural, you haven't advanced a single argument as to how same sex marriage is bad for society. People do a lot of things that are unnatural. We take medicines to alleviate sicknesses, we drive cars to avoid long walks and we fly in airplanes to travel across continents, but that doesn't make Advil, Ford and Northwest Airlines harbingers of the collapse of society. You can say it just "feels" wrong, but that doesn't really cut it. I can articulate many reasons why murder, robbery, rape, etc. are wrong. I can't really articulate why I like the color green. To me, the reasons you've expressed for thinking homosexuality is wrong sound a lot like my attempts to explain why I like the color green.
It would be equally true that you cannot produce any reasons for declaring homosexuality well and proper. It's clearly a moral question and moral questions are always subjective. On an issue like this, where matters of morality are being decided it has to be majority rule, in my opinion. As long as the majority of society agrees that homosexuality is negative and immoral, legislation like Prop 8 will stand a good chance of remaining law. But, as you said, all trending seems to indicate that my way of thinking is truly going the way of the dodo. It is my personal belief that that is to the detriment of society. So buck up, in ten years, you'll be right and I'll be the equivalent of the old guy in the neighborhood yelling at the kids to get off my lawn. We'll see if the nation is better off.
As to your point about adoption, I believe that any home that is based in wholesale immorality is a negative environment for children, who are at the mercy of their legal guardians on a multitude of levels. So while I can obviously appreciate your point, my reasoning is again based in morality, which you will not like.
BB:
Polls show that same sex marriage bans are going to go the way of T-Rex within the next few years. Whereas people over 40 tend to oppose gay marriage in overwhelming numbers, the opposite is true for people under 40. So, citing support for gay marriage bans is a bit of a double-edged sword.
I would also like to ask you why you think same sex couples should be barred from adopting kids. Keep in mind that thousands upon thousands of kids are waiting to be adopted and many of them will never have families to call their own. That you would prefer a kid to never having any family whatsoever in his/her entire life to having a same sex couple as parents is breathtaking in its heartlessness.
Finally, aside from saying that homosexuality is unnatural, you haven't advanced a single argument as to how same sex marriage is bad for society. People do a lot of things that are unnatural. We take medicines to alleviate sicknesses, we drive cars to avoid long walks and we fly in airplanes to travel across continents, but that doesn't make Advil, Ford and Northwest Airlines harbingers of the collapse of society. You can say it just "feels" wrong, but that doesn't really cut it. I can articulate many reasons why murder, robbery, rape, etc. are wrong. I can't really articulate why I like the color green. To me, the reasons you've expressed for thinking homosexuality is wrong sound a lot like my attempts to explain why I like the color green.
It would be equally true that you cannot produce any reasons for declaring homosexuality well and proper. It's clearly a moral question and moral questions are always subjective. On an issue like this, where matters of morality are being decided it has to be majority rule, in my opinion. As long as the majority of society agrees that homosexuality is negative and immoral, legislation like Prop 8 will stand a good chance of remaining law. But, as you said, all trending seems to indicate that my way of thinking is truly going the way of the dodo. It is my personal belief that that is to the detriment of society. So buck up, in ten years, you'll be right and I'll be the equivalent of the old guy in the neighborhood yelling at the kids to get off my lawn. We'll see if the nation is better off.
As to your point about adoption, I believe that any home that is based in wholesale immorality is a negative environment for children, who are at the mercy of their legal guardians on a multitude of levels. So while I can obviously appreciate your point, my reasoning is again based in morality, which you will not like.