Steve Young's family up against Mormon church on Prop. 8

Given that he is the man who authored the the Declaration of Independence I feel confidant that he would be partial to gay marriage. That is to say if he is a principled man he would side with liberty (http://etext.virginia.edu/jefferson/quotations/jeff0100.htm) and not with religious dogma (http://etext.virginia.edu/jefferson/quotations/jeff1650.htm).

Not sure that gay marriage was much of an issue back then so its hard to say how he would feel. Did the Declaration of Independense apply to black slaves?

My homeboy James Dobson weighs in from the future (http://focusfamaction.edgeboss.net/download/focusfamaction/pdfs/10-22-08_2012letter.pdf), the year 2012 to be exact. I'm guessing he is hoping Obama will not be reelected in 2012. Very entertaining read...mega bonus points for creativity. It starts out like this to wet your appetite and get you to lick your lips:

I can't even do it.

I'd rather watch the saved by zero Toyota commercial over and over than be subjected to such garbage.

Doesn't he think that homosexuals can be "cured"? :doh:

I think you have to draw a line somewhere and this seems as good a place as any. After this it will be plural marriage, then it will be lowering the age of consent, then it will be prostitution, then it will be animals, and on and on. We will never reach a point where there won't be someone who wants their sexual proclivity to be formalized in some way by law, no matter how creepy.
aren't you the same guy that thinks that the less government intervention into peoples every day lives, the better?

From a literary stand point it's a masterpiece. If it will help look at it as a work of fiction written from the prospective of a deranged man.

He thinks it's psychological problem that can be cured. Homeboy wanted to help Ted Haggard but he just didn't have the time.

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Not sure that gay marriage was much of an issue back then so its hard to say how he would feel. Did the Declaration of Independense apply to black slaves?

It is not hard to deduce from his writing how he would have felt. Slaves were considered property so I would imagine it applied to them from the stand point of property by their owners.

It is not hard to deduce from his writing how he would have felt. Slaves were considered property so I would imagine it applied to them from the stand point of property by their owners.
I'm not much of a history buff so I really cannot argue either way.

Given that he is the man who authored the the Declaration of Independence I feel confidant that he would be partial to gay marriage. That is to say if he is a principled man he would side with liberty (http://etext.virginia.edu/jefferson/quotations/jeff0100.htm) and not with religious dogma (http://etext.virginia.edu/jefferson/quotations/jeff1650.htm).
interesting to be sure

I think you have to draw a line somewhere and this seems as good a place as any. After this it will be plural marriage, then it will be lowering the age of consent, then it will be prostitution, then it will be animals, and on and on. We will never reach a point where there won't be someone who wants their sexual proclivity to be formalized in some way by law, no matter how creepy.

See, this is called changing the aspects of the issue at hand, then arguing against something completely different. It's like debating an advocate of gun control, when they inevitably assume that since you want to own a handgun or a semi-automatic rifle, then that also means you should be able to own an M-1 Abrahms tank, or a Pershing ICBM.

By the way, age of consent varies greatly all across the country. And keep in mind, we're talking about consent here, and last time I checked, animals cannot consent to anything.

For the record, I also think prostitution and plural marriage are fine since they too are actions which do not infringe upon the rights of anyone else.

See, this is called changing the aspects of the issue at hand, then arguing against something completely different. It's like debating an advocate of gun control, when they inevitably assume that since you want to own a handgun or a semi-automatic rifle, then that also means you should be able to own an M-1 Abrahms tank, or a Pershing ICBM.

By the way, age of consent varies greatly all across the country. And keep in mind, we're talking about consent here, and last time I checked, animals cannot consent to anything.

For the record, I also think prostitution and plural marriage are fine since they too are actions which do not infringe upon the rights of anyone else.

Slippery slopes are real. Read the history of the German race laws in the 1930s.

As to consent laws, I'm not talking about 17 or 16. I'm talking about 12 and younger, and believe me it's coming.

As to your last sentence, I'm actually glad you have the courage to express those views because you prove my point. Most people who hold such views take a much stealthier approach.

Once you start legislating morality the war is already lost. It's simply a matter of time....like my man Thomas Jefferson said:

Morality is really the only thing you can legislate.