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You reap what you sow. McRage is running a negative campaign (which he was supposedly against) and I think people are tired of it. Obama has taken the high road for the most part and is talking about the issues vs. stupid and petty personal attacks. Overall it just sounds like sour grapes and excuses from a doomed and sloppily run campaign. The Republicans have run a piss poor and unfocused campaign, why can't people just admit it?
That Guy 10-28-2008, 09:32 PM yeah, when then only thing someone remembers about your campaign is that you've spent most of you're time telling lies about obama the muslim, obama the one to pal around with terrorists, etc over your actual stances on issues... well, that's not good. and palin's gaffes in limited media interactions haven't been kind either.
I voted for mccain in 2000, and i wish that was the guy running today, instead of this pandering hodgepodge with a terrible VP pick.
The Goat 10-28-2008, 09:58 PM You reap what you sow. McRage is running a negative campaign (which he was supposedly against) and I think people are tired of it. Obama has taken the high road for the most part and is talking about the issues vs. stupid and petty personal attacks. Overall it just sounds like sour grapes and excuses from a doomed and sloppily run campaign. The Republicans have run a piss poor and unfocused campaign, why can't people just admit it?
Couldn't have been better said. Could also add that Grandpa Grouch has made an insane number of gaffes throughout while Obama has had literally one or two. Everyone talks about Barack's comment on guns and religion. Seriously, governors and house reps are saying worse about their own constituents because NEWS FLASH FOLKS: SOME AMERICANS ARE F'ING SICK AND TIRED OF THE BIGOTRY.
SmootSmack 10-28-2008, 10:23 PM You reap what you sow. McRage is running a negative campaign (which he was supposedly against) and I think people are tired of it. Obama has taken the high road for the most part and is talking about the issues vs. stupid and petty personal attacks. Overall it just sounds like sour grapes and excuses from a doomed and sloppily run campaign. The Republicans have run a piss poor and unfocused campaign, why can't people just admit it?
The things that tended to make McCain appealing when he was just a Senator are his downfall now, his candor, openness, etc. He really ultimately has no to blame but himself. He allowed himself to get sucked in by the far-right for the purpose of basically winning at all costs. He hasn't lost yet, but all signs point to it and it's largely due to running a poor campaign. As a whole Republicans ran poor campaigns this year.
Obama, meanwhile, is running an extremely tight ship. I suppose 12thMan can better vouch for this, but I was speaking to an old colleague of mine who is now covering the Obama campaign but who I used to work with covering the Skins a few years back and he said Obama is basically Marty Schottenheimer. It's just an extremely regimented and focused campaign, where (unlike the McCain campaign where seemingly any one from McCain down to the lowest volunteer speaks whenever they want) almost no one whispers a word without Obama clearing it first.
hooskins 10-28-2008, 11:12 PM It is obvious the media leans a bit to the left, but overly bias I say no. Clearly the media, along with 70 percent of America does not approve of the Bush administration, and the truth is McCain is supported by the same base that is die hard for Bush.
More importantly, is it wrong to be liberal if that may be the better direction for this nation? I don't know, but I think it's a valid question.
mheisig 10-29-2008, 09:50 AM my bad. i just like people to take responsibility for their actions. and it seems like people are trying to find excuses for why McCain cant win
A liberal who wants people to take responsibility for their actions? :confused:
dmek25 10-29-2008, 10:41 AM my views are all the place. i don't think there is one catch phrase to describe me:) as far as McCain, his campaign has been all over the map. he did not talk about change, until well into it( when he sensed it was working for obama) his choice of Palin is a joke. his views on just about every major issue have been going back and forth. which really surprises me. if there was one thing the G.O.P is good at, its running a campaign. just ask Kerry, and Gore
firstdown 10-29-2008, 10:53 AM my views are all the place. i don't think there is one catch phrase to describe me:) as far as McCain, his campaign has been all over the map. he did not talk about change, until well into it( when he sensed it was working for obama) his choice of Palin is a joke. his views on just about every major issue have been going back and forth. which really surprises me. if there was one thing the G.O.P is good at, its running a campaign. just ask Kerry, and Gore
OK what major issues has he changed his mind and how?
my views are all the place. i don't think there is one catch phrase to describe me:) as far as McCain, his campaign has been all over the map. he did not talk about change, until well into it( when he sensed it was working for obama) his choice of Palin is a joke. his views on just about every major issue have been going back and forth. which really surprises me. if there was one thing the G.O.P is good at, its running a campaign. just ask Kerry, and Gore
I think in the past what they were good at was running negative campaigns and distracting people from the real issues with crap like gay marriage and fear mongering (what happened to the terror alerts? I miss those, lol). People have finally wised up and given the current economic conditions nobody wants to hear that crap anymore. People are seeing right through it for a change. The wheels have come off the Republican machine, they need to regroup and reinvent themselves for the future.
saden1 10-29-2008, 11:02 AM OK what major issues has he changed his mind and how?
Can you spot the stupidity? Hint, there a couple.
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