How McCain Shed Pariah Status Among Evangelicals

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MTK
10-23-2008, 05:30 PM
It's scary that the religious right has so much influence over the party:

How McCain Shed Pariah Status Among Evangelicals : NPR (http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=96031231)

FRPLG
10-23-2008, 05:44 PM
It sure damn is. It is killing the conservative movement. The REAL conservative movement.

firstdown
10-23-2008, 05:45 PM
Its scary how you find all these liberal media outlets for all your news sources. It was the far right conservatives/ Evangelicals were the ones apposed to John McCain and wanted another rep nominee. Now they have three choices McCain, Obama, or not voting at all. So they have decided to stand behind McCain over the other two choices. Its just like Hillary's base that at first would not support Obama which is now pushing their support his way. This is just a BS story to make McCain lool like he has all these ties now to Evangelicals.

JWsleep
10-23-2008, 06:46 PM
Its scary how you find all these liberal media outlets for all your news sources. It was the far right conservatives/ Evangelicals were the ones apposed to John McCain and wanted another rep nominee. Now they have three choices McCain, Obama, or not voting at all. So they have decided to stand behind McCain over the other two choices. Its just like Hillary's base that at first would not support Obama which is now pushing their support his way. This is just a BS story to make McCain lool like he has all these ties now to Evangelicals.

I agree, FD, that there's not much to this--all politicians do things like this to appeal to voters.

I do wonder, though, if there's going to be a serious debate among republicans after the election (if Obama wins). Conservatives like David Brooks have been very down on Palin and the rhetoric of this repub campaign. I think many fiscal conservatives may be getting tired of being yoked to the social conservative position. Plus, the Atwater/Rove attack style may be questioned, though I doubt that will have much impact.

SmootSmack
10-23-2008, 07:05 PM
I agree, FD, that there's not much to this--all politicians do things like this to appeal to voters.

I do wonder, though, if there's going to be a serious debate among republicans after the election (if Obama wins). Conservatives like David Brooks have been very down on Palin and the rhetoric of this repub campaign. I think many fiscal conservatives may be getting tired of being yoked to the social conservative position. Plus, the Atwater/Rove attack style may be questioned, though I doubt that will have much impact.

I don't know. I mean I would like the Republican party to shift back toward the left a bit. Or, better said, back to center. I would love for this to be a wake up call to the party that we need the McCain of 2000, Romney pre-campaign, Kay Bailey Hutchinson, etc. That's the party I want to feel comfortable supporting again.

But I'm afraid that the answer to a loss (a possible loss) in this Presidential election might be "Well look we tried with a moderate in McCain but he only gained traction when we made him and the campaign more conservative."

We shall see what happens.

hooskins
10-23-2008, 07:09 PM
I agree, I would probably vote republican if they were not so far right socially.

Beemnseven
10-23-2008, 07:40 PM
Thankfully, the Religious Right doesn't seem to have the same power and sway that they did in the eighties and early 90's. It seems that the northeastern/Rockafeller/socialist-lite republicans have taken over in lockstep with the imperialist neocons.

The days of Robert Taft/Barry Goldwater conservatism died around 1964 with his defeat. That was pure, traditional conservatism -- actually bordering on libertarianism (my political philosophy).

There is no greater domestic threat to individual freedom than the Religious Right. At their core, they are nothing more than Authoritarians, and they can go straight to hell as far as I'm concerned.

MTK
10-23-2008, 08:32 PM
Its scary how you find all these liberal media outlets for all your news sources. It was the far right conservatives/ Evangelicals were the ones apposed to John McCain and wanted another rep nominee. Now they have three choices McCain, Obama, or not voting at all. So they have decided to stand behind McCain over the other two choices. Its just like Hillary's base that at first would not support Obama which is now pushing their support his way. This is just a BS story to make McCain lool like he has all these ties now to Evangelicals.

damn that liberal media huh

It's not too hard to find this stuff, try a google news search

What in the article is BS specifically?

Do you have any problem with these religious zealots having so much influence over the party??

firstdown
10-23-2008, 09:20 PM
damn that liberal media huh

It's not too hard to find this stuff, try a google news search

What in the article is BS specifically?

Do you have any problem with these religious zealots having so much influence over the party??
Sorry they don't and if they did McCain would not be running for president. It would be like comparing them to the people you see out rioting in the streets on the left and saying when they vote democratic they have so much power in the dem party. Maybe you need to stop getting your news from google search and open your eyes just a bit. Heck I could start a news net work on the net and I can't even get a Youtube screens to play here. Its fine for a third or forth source but sitting here posting youtube clips day after day is a pit crazy. I'm sure all those clips you play have not ever been edited to met the persons agenda or they leave off the real meaning of what a person is saying. The liberal media is out in full force these past weeks and will be up until election so we do not need every liberal slanted article posted here. If thats going to be the case then maybe we sould start posting every Rush or Hannity article to make things fair and balanced. You say your so open minded but I have not seen one bit of that form you sense we have been talking politics. Heck you even defended Obama asking for 900 million in pork spending and called it a drop in the bucket.

That Guy
10-23-2008, 09:32 PM
i think america as a whole is fairly moderate, more fiscally conservative, more socially liberal, and that creates a bit of a problem when you have 2 parties that only meet half your needs.

i do think god gets too much play in republican election campaigns though, since we've already established freedom of religion (over 200 years ago) and most of our political issues are secular in nature.

the article kind of makes you sad about the mccain we had in 2000 vs. the panderholic we have now though :/.

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