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redsk1 10-22-2008, 02:46 PM What's the big deal? Both sides do it, the article said as much. It didn't have a bill total for Hillary but mentioned that she would get $2500 haircuts. These people are loaded....Hillary, Bush, Gore, John Kerry, McCain. Does anyone honestly think these politicians live like you and I? Come on.
Not saying it might not be the best thing to be doing but hey both sides do it.
hooskins 10-22-2008, 02:51 PM Yupp like I said, if we want to get on Obama, I think he has made a LOT of money just selling books. he has been making millions every year, mostly from book sales.
firstdown 10-22-2008, 03:18 PM Think Progress » McCain Falsely Claims He Has ‘Never Asked For A Single Earmark Or Pork Barrel Project’ For His State (http://thinkprogress.org/2008/01/06/mccain-earmark/)
The one for the building was a seperate bill which was not stuck in on the back pages of another bill. So congree has to vote on that straight up and I'm not sure if thats really considered pork spending. The other is for a buffer zone around a Air Base and I just don't know if thats considered port in a defense spending bill. We have that issue here in our area because the navy jets practice right over peoples homes. So from my perspective its a defense issue.
Slingin Sammy 33 10-22-2008, 03:32 PM (CBS) Since she's been on the campaign trail, Sarah Palin has received a lot of attention over her wardrobe, her hair, even her glasses.
Now, Politico.com is reporting the Republican National Committee has spent more than $150,000 on clothes and accessories for Palin and her family.
link: $150G From GOP For Fashions For Palins?, RNC Said To Have Shelled Out At Least That Much For "Campaign Accessories" For Family - CBS News (http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/10/22/earlyshow/main4538064.shtml?source=mostpop_story)
So that's what those contribution requests I get every other day are for :madani:
However it's pretty convenient Politico couldn't find any numbers on what's been spent on the dems side. I'm sure Hillary, Kerry and Edwards were running up the same or more excessive bills.
firstdown 10-22-2008, 03:33 PM where did you get this little tidbit at? let me guess, fox news?
Heck no I went right to the Obama web site for one. These are list of pork he has stuck into bills and he is proud of asking congress for over 900 million for his pet projects.Obama Announces FY08 Federal Funding Requests | U.S. Senator Barack Obama (http://obama.senate.gov/press/070621-obama_announces_3/)
Or maybe you could look at fact check to read about his 3 million for an overhead projector. FactCheck.org: Did Obama request a $3 million 'overhead projector,' as McCain claimed? (http://www.factcheck.org/askfactcheck/did_obama_request_a_3_million_overhead.html)
Or how about this site were they show that for every working day (Monday-Friday) Obama has been in ofice has asked for an average of a million dollars on pork spending. PolitiFact | McCain's got Obama over a pork barrel (http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/718/)
Slingin Sammy 33 10-22-2008, 03:37 PM Heck no I went right to the Obama web site for one. These are list of pork he has stuck into bills and he is proud of asking congress for over 900 million for his pet projects.Obama Announces FY08 Federal Funding Requests | U.S. Senator Barack Obama (http://obama.senate.gov/press/070621-obama_announces_3/)
Or maybe you could look at fact check to read about his 3 million for an overhead projector. FactCheck.org: Did Obama request a $3 million 'overhead projector,' as McCain claimed? (http://www.factcheck.org/askfactcheck/did_obama_request_a_3_million_overhead.html)
Or how about this site were they show that for every working day (Monday-Friday) Obama has been in ofice has asked for an average of a million dollars on pork spending. PolitiFact | McCain's got Obama over a pork barrel (http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/718/)
But polls show that independents have more confidence in Obama and the economy :frusty:
firstdown 10-22-2008, 04:16 PM But polls show that independents have more confidence in Obama and the economy :frusty:
Funny how they point out 150g that was spent with non taxpayer money but don't have a problem with all the pork Obama has asked for. A million dollars for every working day he has been in office.
The one for the building was a seperate bill which was not stuck in on the back pages of another bill. So congree has to vote on that straight up and I'm not sure if thats really considered pork spending. The other is for a buffer zone around a Air Base and I just don't know if thats considered port in a defense spending bill. We have that issue here in our area because the navy jets practice right over peoples homes. So from my perspective its a defense issue.
Call it what you will, sounds like earmarks to me.
Fact Check: McCain earmark claims examined - CNN.com (http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/09/10/earmark.check/)
12thMan 10-22-2008, 04:25 PM The clothes and the cost is not entirely the point, but rather the context in which Palin and the GOP have portrayed her. That being a small town Mayor from Wassilla, who connects with and is in touch with Joe Six Pack and hardworking, pro-Americans as she puts it. That's the point. We're fussing over the dollar amount, when it's the principle that I would be concerned with. No one really gave a shit when Jackie Kennedy, Cindy McCain, Teresa Heinz-Kerry, or anyone else who spent a gazillion dollars on clothes. Because they didn't present themselves as common and in touch with the average Joe. They never pretended to understand the financial struggles of small town America. They were people of means and didn't apologize for it. People respected that, even if they didn't agree with it. So this smacks of hypocrisy as far as Palin's critics are concerned.
Moreover, and to take all of this a step further, the GOP has tried to paint Barack as an elitist and out of touch, among other things. So there is a huge disconnect between who they say they are, and the type of campaign they're actually running.
Both sides are and have been less than perfect during this election. I'm sure Barack spends a pretty penny on his suits, but he does make decent money in the Senate and has two number one best sellers to show for it. And still, he leads a fairly modest lifestyle. But I digress.
The clothes and the cost is not entirely the point, but rather the context in which Palin and the GOP have portrayed her. That being a small town Mayor from Wassilla, who connects with and is in touch with Joe Six Pack and hardworking, pro-Americans as she puts it. That's the point. We're fussing over the dollar amount, when it's the principle that I would be concerned with. No one really gave a shit when Jackie Kennedy, Cindy McCain, Teresa Heinz-Kerry, or anyone else who spent a gazillion dollars on clothes. Because they didn't present themselves as common and in touch with the average Joe. They never pretended to understand the financial struggles of small town America. They were people of means and didn't apologize for it. People respected that, even if they didn't agree with it. So this smacks of hypocrisy as far as Palin's critics are concerned.
Moreover, and to take all of this a step further, the GOP has tried to paint Barack as an elitist and out of touch, among other things. So there is a huge disconnect between who they say they are, and the type of campaign they're actually running.
Both sides are and have been less than perfect during this election. I'm sure Barack spends a pretty penny on his suits, but he does make decent money in the Senate and has two number one best sellers to show for it. And still, he leads a fairly modest lifestyle. But I digress.
Well stated
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