Jansen vs. Heyer

We HAVE to pass protect. Maybe give Jansen 1 more week and let Heyer fully recover but Heyer is going to have to learn to run block. He is our future right tackle.

Right on 53Fan.

Everyone is talking like Heyer has zero run block skills. He's not a practice sled. He has some freaking run block value.

JJ is to much of a liability. Yes, CP is running his heart out now, but do you want that to be at the expense of JC?

If you can't properly protect your QB, you don't deserve the starting job. Heyer will grow and his run blocking will improve. It's fine.

All you JJ lovers should tell CP and the rest of the dirtbags that our run success is due in large part to Janson. I'm not buying it.

What was the problem with the pass protection last week - besides it being non-existent? While i have heard a lot of sport radio talk about it being "Jansen" and the line, I heard a couple players say its was mixed communications with the backs picking up blitzes. What really is the cause of the protection problems?

All I know is that we have 12 sacks on the season.

Cowboys - 7
Eagles - 10
Giants - 6

Get Heyer in there and lets protect our future.

And... you may be on to something Hooray. There was certainly mix communication between some backs picking up blitzes. It's not all Jansons fault. True.

And don't forget how crappy #60 looks at times. Drives me crazy.

Heyer is what need at the tackle not Jansen. CP has been running well but if you look at it the big runs have been on the left side not the right side of where Jansen is. In the west coast offense pass protection is the key not running blocking. We need to protect Campbell by all means. Jansen is terrible in pass protection and after the season he will pack his bags and get off of our cap for younger athletic guys. Don't be surprise if Kendall is next. We have to get younger, athletic on the offensive line. Heyer will become a gret right tackle for us before moving to the left tackle to replace Samuels in about 4-5 years.

Clearly Jansen's one and only upside is run-blocking. The proof is in the pudding so to speak as we've seen Portis rack up yards like crazy the three games JJ has started. But... the thing to keep in mind is w/ Jansen's poor pass blocking our air assault is limited - in fact it seemed like we had to change the game plan against St. Louis to limit deeper routes and therefore the amount of time JC holds the ball. I think the implication is the longer Jansen starts the likelier teams are to throw more defenders in the box and key on Portis. The result: probably a weaker all around offense. If Heyer is finally healthy I think he ought to start and we ought to pass like crazy that first game to reestablish the air attack and keep defenses honest. Portis will see more room to run too.

Disclaimer: Both Jansen and Heyer are hurt too much IMO. Heyer is a kid but already having shoulder problems that keep him sidelined. We need to draft a bad ass o tackle for '09.

All I know is that we have 12 sacks on the season.

Cowboys - 7
Eagles - 10
Giants - 6

Get Heyer in there and lets protect our future.

And... you may be on to something Hooray. There was certainly mix communication between some backs picking up blitzes. It's not all Jansons fault. True.

And don't forget how crappy #60 looks at times. Drives me crazy.

Too lazy to look right now but I assume Rabach is #60. On second thought, I would be delighted to see the FO use our two top picks in '09 for o-lineman. A bad ass tackle and a bad ass guard/center to step in for whoever needs to be replaced first between Kendell and Rabach.

#60 is Chris Samuels

Rabach has been pretty weak this year. You know, since his name was brought up.

Too lazy to look right now but I assume Rabach is #60. On second thought, I would be delighted to see the FO use our two top picks in '09 for o-lineman. A bad ass tackle and a bad ass guard/center to step in for whoever needs to be replaced first between Kendell and Rabach.IMHO, Kendall has earned himself an extension this year. He is to the rush offense what Shawn Springs is to the pass defense.

IMHO, Kendall has earned himself an extension this year. He is to the rush offense what Shawn Springs is to the pass defense.

Right on GTripp. Kendall has been a great addition and stayed healthy too. Sometimes I wonder whether Jansen really should be moved inside as a backup since his bull rush ability is right there w/ Kendall's.