In Jim Zorn we trust!....

No way Gibbs should get "most of the credit." Gibbs brought some good players into DC, no doubt about it. However, Gibbs wasn't winning with said players, he wasn't aggressive like Zorn is, and he wasn't winning games like Zorn is.

Gibbs did some good things, but if you break it down to coaching. Gibbs II doesn't compare to Zorn thus far.

You're 100% correct and that's not a slap in the face to Gibbs. But Zorn is coaching his ass off. Right before the half if that was Gibbs I bet we sit on the ball and let the half end. And we all know Gibbs would have never gone for that 4th and 1. Zorn is coaching to win where Gibbs coached not to lose. I didn't like the hire at first but I believe in this guy now. Kudos to Dan and Vinny for having the balls to hire him.

How about the job he did last year with all those injuries and , especially to the OL and ST's death? Are you forgetting? You think Zorn could have done that? I doubted. Campbell matured last year, he arrived after the Dallas loss in Dallas, we couldn't run a lot of the plays with the right side of the line missing and therefore Campbell wasn't as effective as he is this year. Yes, they held him back so he wouldn't get killed and then he got injured. OL being healthy is the difference this year.

That was last year and the defense had a lot to do with that. Stop giving all the credit to Gibbs.

How about the job he did last year with all those injuries and , especially to the OL and ST's death? Are you forgetting? You think Zorn could have done that? I doubted. Campbell matured last year, he arrived after the Dallas loss in Dallas, we couldn't run a lot of the plays with the right side of the line missing and therefore Campbell wasn't as effective as he is this year. Yes, they held him back so he wouldn't get killed and then he got injured. OL being healthy is the difference this year.

Yes...yes...thanks Joe for assembling and keeping together this bunch of character guys, but thanks also for stepping down when you realized you couldn't get us to the SB.

It's just so damn refreshing to have a coach who plays to win. This is what we've needed for the last four years!!!! Did anyone see Zorn on the sidelines before the 4th and 1 call? He wasn't even thinking about punting. He knew we were pushing around the Eagles front 7.

I really don't understand why praise for Zorn automatically warrants a backhanded swipe at Gibbs everytime. What purpose does it serve and why stop there? Let's compare Zorn to every coach since Gibbs' first retirement. It's ridiculous. I've seen these comments over and over on various sites since the season started and I'm sick of it.

Don't get me wrong. I want more than anything for Zorn to succeed. I want our fans to experience the same things I did growing up watching a winning franchise. Joe Gibbs inherited a mess when he came back and didn't owe anyone squat. If you're going to continually judge him, then step back and look at the big picture. If anyone says Gibbs left this team worse than when he started, then you're either a complete idiot or you simply get your jollies tearing down a man who has given more to this franchise than any one else in its history. Did Gibbs make mistakes? Sure he did and so will Zorn. When that happens, please don't make excuses for him. I expect everyone who thinks Zorn is the greatest thing since sliced bread to criticize him with the same fervancy they continue to do with Gibbs.

What I find completely ironic is the people that said the Gibbs homers should just let him go and move on when he retired, are the same people who keep bringing him back up, only to offer criticism or take jabs at him. It was hard for me letting Gibbs go, but I moved on. I don't feel the need to compare the two. I've embraced Zorn and I'm excited at the things he's doing here. I hope he surpasses what Gibbs did and brings us 4 Lombardis. Zorn's successes will only add to our legacy. They should not and will not diminish what Gibbs accomplished.

And here comes the battle of Old School and New School! The NFL is not the same game as it was 20 years ago. I don't care what anyone says. It's faster, more athletic, more aggressive and more convoluted. It's obvious that our players NOW are buying into what their being sold. Several of our key players including Clinton Portis have even been vocal about this in a round about way. I've met Joe Gibbs on numerous occasions and he's the best model for what we humans could be. But I have to agree with Hurrykaine. I believe a big part of his decision to retire was that he realized that the game has changed and he wasn't the man to take us all the way.

Yes...yes...thanks Joe for assembling and keeping together this bunch of character guys, but thanks also for stepping down when you realized you couldn't get us to the SB.

I think this is exactly right, and the greatness that is JG. He surely could have stayed, everyone wanted him to, but he knew that the Skins could do better. It takes a heck of a person to be willing to do that. And Zorn has been outstanding. He was chomping at the bit to be a coach, and the Redskins are lucky that Dan and Vinny took the chance on him.

Is it fair to even start comparing Gibbs and Zorny? but on a different note. Did anyone see Zorny when Devin Thomas Got called for interference. You could see him lip "come on Devin" then it looked like he was runnin from a fight and ran into someone on the sideline. Lets just all start living this moment up. We just freakin beat the two most hated teams in a row. I love what Gibbs did for this organation, But you old timers need to stop living in the past and give Zorny and the boys some credit. Sorry I started to rant

Is it fair to even start comparing Gibbs and Zorny? but on a different note. Did anyone see Zorny when Devin Thomas Got called for interference. You could see him lip "come on Devin" then it looked like he was runnin from a fight and ran into someone on the sideline. Lets just all start living this moment up. We just freakin beat the two most hated teams in a row. I love what Gibbs did for this organation, But you old timers need to stop living in the past and give Zorny and the boys some credit. Sorry I started to rant
Exactly. How about we wait four years and not five games before comparing the two.

As to your other point, the "old timers" aren't the ones who are continually bringing Gibbs up in the conversation. I'm completely content with praising Zorn without feeling the need to thank Gibbs in the same breath.

Let's not argue fellas, Joe Gibbs was great. That was then, this is now. Let us bask in the greatness that is Jim Zorn. Hopefully he is the next legendary coach in the story of the Washington Redskins. Maybe he can lead us to the top in his time here. Who knows? We could lose every game for the rest of the season and he could be fired next year...

I don't think so though. I think our FO found us a gem...