Around the NFL (Week 4)

Nice start to the season.

My favorite team is 3-1 after a huge win on the road against a division opponent

My 2nd fave team (Titans) is 4-0

My AFC Champion pick, and a team and QB I've been talking about for two years now (Bills) is 4-0

I need some WR help in my Warpath Free League though...

I think you forgot to mention how Joe Gibbs racing has fallen flat on their asses. :D

Discuss the other games here

There were other games???.........????

I think you forgot to mention how Joe Gibbs racing has fallen flat on their asses. :D

Haven't forgotten. I was going to start a thread on Kyle Busch following yesterday's race, but I figured I'd wait one more week. I mean for all intents and purposes he's out of it. Which is just remarkable.

Haven't forgotten. I was going to start a thread on Kyle Busch following yesterday's race, but I figured I'd wait one more week. I mean for all intents and purposes he's out of it. Which is just remarkable.

I agree...I'm SHOCKED at how much he has fallen. He seems to have mentally given up too after the blown engine a week ago.

is anyone noticing how dominant the Titans are? They would be an AFC super bowl favorite if they had a good qb.I'd like to apoligize to any Titan fans who read my draft coverage where I declared Chris Johnson a 'senseless' pick.

I don't understand what is going on in Tampa Bay. Why in the hell did Garcia get benched in favor of Griese? I know the Bucs are winning, but what gives? Gruden must have some serious beef with Garcia.Garcia is reaching that point of his career where his physical deterioration might start catching up to him. He's not a big guy, so he does need significant arm strength to make all the throws. The Bucs can't count on having the 2002 Garcia, or the 2006 Garcia, or even the 2007 Garcia. When those close completions start turning into INTs, he's valueless.

Did anyone think when Pacman got facemasked and complained to the refs, that his reinstatement was in jeopardy? He got a little nasty with the refs.

Did anyone think when Pacman got facemasked and complained to the refs, that his reinstatement was in jeopardy? He got a little nasty with the refs.

Nah, I don't think anything he does on the field, unless it's unbelievably awful, would compromise his reinstatement. Personal conduct stuff almost always refers to off the field issues.

Garcia is reaching that point of his career where his physical deterioration might start catching up to him. He's not a big guy, so he does need significant arm strength to make all the throws. The Bucs can't count on having the 2002 Garcia, or the 2006 Garcia, or even the 2007 Garcia. When those close completions start turning into INTs, he's valueless.

Garcia had 90+ QB ratings in 2006 and 2007. Griese has thrown for 6 picks in 3 games and has a QB rating of about 65 this season. I've watched both both QBs and Garcia is simply the better QB. Supposedly, Garcia and Gruden had a dispute that got ugly and Garcia got benched. SS, can you shed some light on the subject?

As I understand it, ever since Gruden made it clear he wanted Favre this summer things have been pretty tense with him and Garcia. Garcia has felt he's being under-appreciated and slighted in Tampa-just like he thought he was in San Fran, Detroit, and Philly-and to an extent he definitely is. Still, it is interesting how no team makes a big push to keep him.