TheMalcolmConnection
09-26-2008, 12:36 PM
I really have to agree here. NO ONE can make the argument that Witten is the best TE in the game.
Cooley, Witten, Gates and a younger Gonzo all should be about tied for number one.
SC Skins Fan
09-26-2008, 12:54 PM
It was so annoying how Madden wouldnt shut up about Jason Witten in the dallas/philly game. He kept saying that Witten is the best TE in the league. Considering that Madden is slowly slipping into sinility, I don't buy anything he says. Cooley was drafted lower than Witten and has more touchdowns in less time.
Witten is probably the best TE in the league right now and 'drafted lower' is kind of splitting hairs (Witten 3rd/69 overall in 2003, Cooley 3rd/81 overall in 2004). The thing that gets me about Witten is that he seems like a bit of a dullard (I'm a f-f-football player). Obviously impressionistic (I'm sure the Dallas fans will be quick to respond), but he certainly does not have the personality of Cooley (who does some dumb things but you can tell there is some intelligence there, and he is funny most of the time). Anyway, I wouldn't trade Cooley for Witten obviously and actually the numbers are pretty close (and, in fairness, Witten was putting up numbers before T.O. got there ... if anything that first year T.O. stole some TDs from him). I don't think we need to go off and so Cooley is soooo much better than Witten (or vice versa), neither is a valid argument.
saden1
09-26-2008, 12:56 PM
We don't even use Cooley that well.
I think Cooley's production will only increase as the season goes on. After a slow start in week one he's caught 12 passes in the last two games. I'm predicting an 80 catch season for him.
sandtrapjack
09-26-2008, 01:00 PM
All I want to know is how in the heck does Cooley get his facemask on over that honker of a schnaz he has? That think has its own zip code.
That is why he is so good in inclement weather, he justs puts his hands under his nose to keep them dry in the rain.
Do they put his helmet on first and then attach the facemask or something?
Defensewins
09-26-2008, 01:04 PM
Cooley is faster and a bit more of a receiving threat. But he is not a great run blocker.
All the media and today's football fans just care about catches and yards.
Regardless of what team they play for, I would rather have Witten as my #1a TE and Cooley as my #1b TE/H-back.
Witten is a much better blocker, but he is still a very good receiver.
Cooley is a slightly better receiver.
Cooley is not a great run blocker.
So I give a slight overall advantage to Witten.
Run blocking for your #1 TE is so important and does not get the credit that it is due. It adds so much to your running game when your TE will knock the snot out of a LB or DE.
We do not have a great run blocking TE and might need to address that in the upcoming years.
All I want to know is how in the heck does Cooley get his facemask on over that honker of a schnaz he has? That think has its own zip code.
That is why he is so good in inclement weather, he justs puts his hands under his nose to keep them dry in the rain.
Do they put his helmet on first and then attach the facemask or something?
Why is this even necessary?
saden1
09-26-2008, 01:12 PM
Why is this even necessary?
Not necessary but funny as hell though.
53Fan
09-26-2008, 01:51 PM
Thanks for the intelligent input. Very witty sandtrap.
firstdown
09-26-2008, 02:04 PM
Witten has a seperated shoulder from Week 2. He hasn't scored yet this year.
In his career of games against the Skins:
2007 - 2/24yds/0 TD , 8/67/0
2006 - 5/50/0 , 4/45/0
2005 - 4/41/1, 4/35/0
2004 - 6/50/0, 3/22/1
2003 - 0/0/0, 0/0/0
TOTAL - 10 games, 36 catches/334 yds (33.4 avg), 2 TDs
Career total : 82 games, 21 TDs
Cooley vs. Dallas: 8 games, 30 catches/357 yds (44.6 avg), 5 TDs
Career total : 67 games, 27 TDs
Cooley is much more versatile too.
Hey don't use actual number to prove your point.