$700 B Bailout

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firstdown
10-01-2008, 12:16 PM
I'm a Mortgage Loan Officer going on my 8th year in the business. I'm not saying that SOME loan officers are not to blame. There are some of them.

I've got to take up for alot of good loan officers that you are just throwing under the bus. I offer recommendations to clients based on their situation.

I've never done an Option Arm (which i'm proud of now). I have done Alt A loans though (less than perfect credit) over the last few years of the housing boom. When a client calls to get pre-approved i routinely ask, "What do you want to keep your payments under?"

Once i tell them what they can afford, I routinely would get.. how much are my payments at this higher sales price? I would consult, advise, and tell them...make sure you are comfortable w/ your payments! That's the #1 thing.

Now should I not offer them or tell them they don't qualify b/c i don't think they can afford it...even when Fannie Mae guidelines say they do qualify? I can only advise but so much. So, when you come out and put a blanket statement that Loan Officers should go to jail...come on. That's what makes me mad.

I've done maybe 2 subprime deals in 8 years and I have done some Alt A's, but 90% of my business is A paper.

Hell, I remember a couple years ago, getting folks qualified for Alt A's, consulting them, and saying theres no way these people can afford this house. They were approved by Fannie Mae's online underwriting guidelines. Maybe i should have let the 10 other lenders that were lining up behind me to do the loan. I did my job and my customers knew exactly what they were getting. I can speak for the majority of other lenders i know that handles things similar to me.

By the way the majority of Alt A's are fixed too....people couldn't afford the fixed payment.

By the way...i have a 5/1 I/O Arm that's fixed for 5 years at 3.5%...not bad huh. When I make my "normal amortizing payment" each month I get more principal reduction that the normal fixed rate that i would have gotten at the time. So structured right and explained right an ARM is not a bad thing. The worst regular ARM adjustment over the last 7 years....was in the 7.5% range...but has averaged in the lower 6's
So in your last paragraph can we reason that people did not take the savings and pay down the principle thus making their principle much lower when it adjusted to the higher rate? Caould we also assume that these people did not pay down the principle and used the money for new cars etc... now tying up that money ment for their mortgage in other things?

FRPLG
10-01-2008, 02:09 PM
I agree the Rep had time to fix this but what would the headlines have read if they decided to tighten credit and loans which would affect lower income the most. It would have been a politial suicide and they knew that. Just look back at the early 90's and Newt and all the starving children and hurting old people news articles that went on with everything he tried to do.

Not only do they not get a pass from me for avoiding fixing this because it would have been political suicide, they also get to share the blame. They had a job to do and didn't. Just like the dummies who supposedly didn't vote for the bill because of Pelosi's speech. I hated the bill and I am glad they voted against it but if their reason for voting against this truly was that her speech was mean then they all need to get kicked in the head.

firstdown
10-01-2008, 04:37 PM
Not only do they not get a pass from me for avoiding fixing this because it would have been political suicide, they also get to share the blame. They had a job to do and didn't. Just like the dummies who supposedly didn't vote for the bill because of Pelosi's speech. I hated the bill and I am glad they voted against it but if their reason for voting against this truly was that her speech was mean then they all need to get kicked in the head.
I was not giving anyone a pass just making a statement of how it would have gone down if they tried. Have not heard anything about people not voting on a bill because of what Pelosi said.

redsk1
10-01-2008, 04:38 PM
So in your last paragraph can we reason that people did not take the savings and pay down the principle thus making their principle much lower when it adjusted to the higher rate? Caould we also assume that these people did not pay down the principle and used the money for new cars etc... now tying up that money ment for their mortgage in other things?

Yeah, no doubt there's alot of instances like that. As lenders, we try to offer different options while at the same time educating the client on how each option works, and maybe even making a recommendation to what might fit them best. But it's not really the normal ARM that's causing all these issues it's 100% financing, Alt A, subprime, second mortgages, decreasing value, and then mortgage backed securities/Wall Street.

So, all I'm saying is you can't just say "lender's are bad and should go to jail."

saden1
10-02-2008, 12:01 PM
Please explain to me what this guy is saying:

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hooskins
10-02-2008, 12:10 PM
Please explain to me what this guy is saying:

-i0su1roQLI

Like any politician, circumventing the question. A much better answer would be to mention the system is flawed but overall it was the best choice for it's other benefits.

Or better yet, just bullshit from the beginning, do not dig yourself in a hole.

dmek25
10-02-2008, 04:57 PM
saden, do us all a favor, keep posting these you tube moments. its hard to dispute what they are saying, when we hear it right from the horses mouth

Slingin Sammy 33
10-02-2008, 05:18 PM
Please explain to me what this guy is saying:

-i0su1roQLI
I don't even care what he said, once I saw the graphic of the pork, I just blanked out. I wish MSNBC had named names. Whoever is pushing pork in this should be hit in the head with a tire iron.

Damn, I wish there was a Line Item veto right about now.

dmek25
10-02-2008, 05:21 PM
how is McCain going to veto all of the bills that contain pork, when he is voting for them?

Slingin Sammy 33
10-02-2008, 06:06 PM
how is McCain going to veto all of the bills that contain pork, when he is voting for them?
I don't care who the President is, that Line Item veto will stop a lot of this pork garbage.

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