hesscl34
09-25-2008, 10:28 AM
I like our class act character guys assembled by a hall of fame coach over a bunch of rogue thugs thrown together by a meddling owner.
Couldn't have said it any better!
Couldn't have said it any better!
Reason Why the Cowboys will Win or Losehesscl34 09-25-2008, 10:28 AM I like our class act character guys assembled by a hall of fame coach over a bunch of rogue thugs thrown together by a meddling owner. Couldn't have said it any better! hesscl34 09-25-2008, 10:31 AM Okay, you guys are entitled to your opinions and loyalties. But don't cry in your beer if the Redskins are last in the division and miss the playoffs. There is a saying in the NFL that maybe you have heard. "You have to be in it to win it". And sometimes that means that GM's may have to take a chance, gamble, risk or whatever you want to call it with very talented players with questionable pasts. So far the gambles are paying off for the Cowboys though. Owens was always a pain in the ass in San Fran and Philly. Now, for every season he has been in Dallas he has been a perfect team mate, and even you can't deny that. People criticized the way Owens treated his QB in San Fran (Garcia) and the way he treated McNAbb in Philly. Now, when he has a great releationship with his QB and will pubilcally defend his QB (even to the point of tears, instead of publically attacking his QB) he is still scrutinized. The hypocracy baffles me. What about Tank Johnson? Cancer in Chicago, but in Dallas his is a model team mate and citizen with several local charities he over sees. Then Adam Jones. Not one issue off the field, not one. And did you know that he donated and distributed over a million dollars worth of school supplies in the Dallas area to children whose parents could not afford them? And he did this BEFORE he got reinstated, which means he did it before he got his pay started in Dallas. Pacman has been very active in the Dallas community. Thing is those players may have been trouble elsewhere, but since coming to Dallas they have been model citizens, and I dare say they might even live up to the Redskins fans high expectations of "character". When Jerry Jones bought the Cowboys he got the team for 450 million dollars. Now the team value is the highest in the league at just over 1.7 BILLION. You do not get that type of return without taking a few chances. And so far they are paying off nicely. If you are willing to sell your soul then you will probably get whatever you want... but there is ALWAYS a price. (losing first round of playoffs, twice). Jake2008 09-25-2008, 10:38 AM Okay, you guys are entitled to your opinions and loyalties. But don't cry in your beer if the Redskins are last in the division and miss the playoffs. There is a saying in the NFL that maybe you have heard. "You have to be in it to win it". And sometimes that means that GM's may have to take a chance, gamble, risk or whatever you want to call it with very talented players with questionable pasts. So far the gambles are paying off for the Cowboys though. Owens was always a pain in the ass in San Fran and Philly. Now, for every season he has been in Dallas he has been a perfect team mate, and even you can't deny that. People criticized the way Owens treated his QB in San Fran (Garcia) and the way he treated McNAbb in Philly. Now, when he has a great releationship with his QB and will pubilcally defend his QB (even to the point of tears, instead of publically attacking his QB) he is still scrutinized. The hypocracy baffles me. What about Tank Johnson? Cancer in Chicago, but in Dallas his is a model team mate and citizen with several local charities he over sees. Then Adam Jones. Not one issue off the field, not one. And did you know that he donated and distributed over a million dollars worth of school supplies in the Dallas area to children whose parents could not afford them? And he did this BEFORE he got reinstated, which means he did it before he got his pay started in Dallas. Pacman has been very active in the Dallas community. Thing is those players may have been trouble elsewhere, but since coming to Dallas they have been model citizens, and I dare say they might even live up to the Redskins fans high expectations of "character". When Jerry Jones bought the Cowboys he got the team for 450 million dollars. Now the team value is the highest in the league at just over 1.7 BILLION. You do not get that type of return without taking a few chances. And so far they are paying off nicely. Do you honestly believe Pacman is doing that because he has changed? Seriously he is the same guy and just realizes that he has to do that if he wants to make any money. He would be in a strip club if he had a choice. Character wise these guys haven't changed, they just realize they have no choice, but lets see how long that will last. It is his first year back. And TO was not a problem in SF or Philly until things started going bad. So trying to compare him now to back then doesn't work unless things go bad. And while in Dallas he has had a couple of blowups when he felt he wasn't getting the attention he deserves. If they were losing and he was only getting a couple of passes thrown his way I would bet the old TO would show up. As far as what the club is worth, that is the funny thing about Dallas. The reason the franchise was so cheap was because Dallas sucked back then and Dallas has the most fickle fans. I have lived in Dallas for 21 years now and my wife is a Boys fan so we have had season tickets for 18 years. It was funny to see how empty the stadium would be on game day because they were losing. Absolutely no loyalty or team pride here. I remember Jerry Jones donating tickets to just try and get enough attendance to avoid a blackout. It was pitiful. Now that they are doing good, it is the in thing to go to the games. But now that Parcells is gone, Jerry will get things back to normal and that value will fall. They are already having a hard time selling seats in the new stadium with the outlandish prices. Thankfully my wife agrees that it is not worth it and we are not renewing our season tickets in the new stadium. sandtrapjack 09-25-2008, 10:39 AM If you are willing to sell your soul then you will probably get whatever you want... but there is ALWAYS a price. (losing first round of playoffs, twice). Then you could say the same about the Colts and Broncos, who each posted 13-3 regular season records and lost in the first round of the playoffs, then went on to win the Super Bowl in following years. I might add that when the Broncos did it, they actually went on to win back to back Super Bowls. And then there is the Chargers, who went 14-2 and lost in the first round, but then made it to the AFC Champioship game the next year. hooskins 09-25-2008, 10:41 AM I agree if things start looking sour in Dallas, or even if he gets less than two catches per game for several weeks the TO of old will return. 53Fan 09-25-2008, 10:43 AM You make it sound like it's all about the money sandtrapjack. It has'nt paid off in playoff wins has it? over the mountain 09-25-2008, 10:44 AM dallas week rolls around and sandtrap and Dboyz show their sense of entitlement . . . on a skins board no less. you guys sure do alot of talk and reassuring yourself that your gonna blow us out in this thread yet your moneys still on the skins . . .hahaha go skins!! hail_2_da_skins 09-25-2008, 11:02 AM Why Will The Redskins Win The Game 1. The Girls are over-confident and are underestimating the Skins. 2. Moss is going to have a huge day against the suspect Dallas secondary. 3. Homo is going to do his best Brett Farve impression and throw the ball up for grabs many times. 4. TO is going to implode and throw a tantrum on the sideline because Homo can't get the ball to him. 5. By the fourth quarter the fans will be booing the girls in blue. Why Will The Redskins Lose The Game 1. Dallas/Fort Worth International Airport is shutdown and the Redskins plane is denied access to any airport in the Dallas area. 2. The entire Washington Redskins team get the flu. 3. Mars attacks! Hog1 09-25-2008, 11:05 AM Okay, you guys are entitled to your opinions and loyalties. But don't cry in your beer if the Redskins are last in the division and miss the playoffs. There is a saying in the NFL that maybe you have heard. "You have to be in it to win it". And sometimes that means that GM's may have to take a chance, gamble, risk or whatever you want to call it with very talented players with questionable pasts. So far the gambles are paying off for the Cowboys though. Owens was always a pain in the ass in San Fran and Philly. Now, for every season he has been in Dallas he has been a perfect team mate, and even you can't deny that. People criticized the way Owens treated his QB in San Fran (Garcia) and the way he treated McNAbb in Philly. Now, when he has a great releationship with his QB and will pubilcally defend his QB (even to the point of tears, instead of publically attacking his QB) he is still scrutinized. The hypocracy baffles me. What about Tank Johnson? Cancer in Chicago, but in Dallas his is a model team mate and citizen with several local charities he over sees. Then Adam Jones. Not one issue off the field, not one. And did you know that he donated and distributed over a million dollars worth of school supplies in the Dallas area to children whose parents could not afford them? And he did this BEFORE he got reinstated, which means he did it before he got his pay started in Dallas. Pacman has been very active in the Dallas community. Thing is those players may have been trouble elsewhere, but since coming to Dallas they have been model citizens, and I dare say they might even live up to the Redskins fans high expectations of "character". When Jerry Jones bought the Cowboys he got the team for 450 million dollars. Now the team value is the highest in the league at just over 1.7 BILLION. You do not get that type of return without taking a few chances. And so far they are paying off nicely. These are the rules your team your team has chosen to live by. These are not universal truths. If integrity has no meaning to the Cowboys........so be it! Oh yea, there is another saying on a more global scale that I imagine pre-dates the NFL by a few millenia....You reap what you sow...... sandtrapjack 09-25-2008, 11:09 AM These are the rules your team your team has chosen to live by. These are not universal truths. If integrity has no meaning to the Cowboys........so be it! Oh yea, there is another saying on a more global scale that I imagine pre-dates the NFL by a few millenia....You reap what you sow...... Yeah well I did not hear all the Redskins fans creaming "character" when Sean Taylor was putting a gun in someones face. |
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