JLC vs. Cerrato takes a new twist?

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53Fan
09-23-2008, 01:52 PM
Vinny said that one of the reasons he wanted to be on the show was so he could respond to all the garbage being thrown out there. I can understand that.

Dirtbag59
09-23-2008, 02:41 PM
Vinny said that one of the reasons he wanted to be on the show was so he could respond to all the garbage being thrown out there. I can understand that.

Ironically I've always have seen Vinny as innocent in all this. To be honest theres a lot of stuff I don't like about Snyder, but one thing I know is the fact that he wants to win and rarely cuts corners when it comes to getting the Redskins a chance to compete. Is he misguided at times? Probably. Hiring Larry Michael was a pretty Angelos like move on his part, and stuff like that will always make me wonder, but at the same time the only thing I really care about is winning short of fielding a team with murders, premadonnas, and the like.

BrunellMVP?
09-23-2008, 03:44 PM
In general I'm tired of the bickering back and forth between the Skins and the media. I think the Skins are probably mostly to blame. I just wish they would squash it already.

Agreed, except that I think this is almost 100% the Redskins' fault. It is JLC's job to report on the team... the Redskins should not be employing these fear tactics- fall in line, or I won't let you cover me (etc). I don't know how many of you remember the "obstructed view seats" fiasco, but if it weren't for the Post's reporting on the issue (JLC being one of them) I know many fans would have a had a lot harder time resolving the issue. For those of you that don't remember, the Redskins' initial response was to chastise the Washington Post while threatening to reduce the amount of "corporate seats" allocated to the Post for speaking against them. The REdskins have routinely attempted to dominate/muzzle the press. Jason is doing his job, and he's doing it well.

BrunellMVP?
09-23-2008, 03:49 PM
If he calls the league office and asks "what are the tampering ruless if a team representative is talking about another teams coach or player in specifics", this is easy. He just doesn't know and wants to get clarification. But he didn't. He called and used Vinny's name.


Obviously trying to get a guy in trouble. He should own up and apologize to Vinny and the fans. He just created a lot of enemies. He better start a little damage control (not just try to "spin" it).


True, he could have called and said hypothetically speaking, "what if..."
but in the same breath, Vinny is the first VP to host a talk show...Jason was just trying to get to the bottom of it- which is his job. Its not his job to cover the redskins legal behind (who are just seeking- not a bad thing- another venue to make more money). Do you think the white house was pleased to learn about what Bob Woodward was researching? NO, but he did it anyway becuase that is what reports do, they dig and report back to the public- I for one am damn glad Jason's doing it.

53Fan
09-23-2008, 05:14 PM
It is JLC's job to report on the team. It is not his job to try an instigate trouble by calling the league office an insinuating that the VP of the team is guilty of tampering. It has already been noted that Bill Polian of the Colts has a similar show already. Hard to keep the facts straight when you have a reporter reporting whatever serves his purpose is'nt it?

MTK
09-23-2008, 05:21 PM
Agreed, except that I think this is almost 100% the Redskins' fault. It is JLC's job to report on the team... the Redskins should not be employing these fear tactics- fall in line, or I won't let you cover me (etc). I don't know how many of you remember the "obstructed view seats" fiasco, but if it weren't for the Post's reporting on the issue (JLC being one of them) I know many fans would have a had a lot harder time resolving the issue. For those of you that don't remember, the Redskins' initial response was to chastise the Washington Post while threatening to reduce the amount of "corporate seats" allocated to the Post for speaking against them. The REdskins have routinely attempted to dominate/muzzle the press. Jason is doing his job, and he's doing it well.

Even if the Skins are mostly to blame, JLC certainly isn't helping matters at times. So it goes both ways.

dmvskinzfan08
09-23-2008, 06:46 PM
If that's true that's pretty shitty on JLC's part, but really not surprising.

Yeah not to mention it could lead to us losing draft picks and being fined. But its not true. cna't believe he actually had the audacity to call the league offices.

JLC is a db (and that doesn't stand for defensive back)

Dirtbag59
09-23-2008, 06:47 PM
I wonder if one day we'll see a confrintation between good ol Vinny and JLA. Though in this case I'm willing to bet that the roles would be reversed.

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dmvskinzfan08
09-23-2008, 06:49 PM
If he calls the league office and asks "what are the tampering ruless if a team representative is talking about another teams coach or player in specifics", this is easy. He just doesn't know and wants to get clarification. But he didn't. He called and used Vinny's name.


Obviously trying to get a guy in trouble. He should own up and apologize to Vinny and the fans. He just created a lot of enemies. He better start a little damage control (not just try to "spin" it).

Why did he have to call the league office. I am sure its on google or on the web somewhere. He knew exactly what he was doing?

SmootSmack
09-23-2008, 07:17 PM
As someone who has worked in that local media covering the Redskins (Wizards, Capitals, Mystics, Freedom, United, Bison, Terps. Hoyas, Eagles, Colonials, Patriots, etc.) I would say that as far as getting access to a team's front office the Redskins are certainly the most difficult. They're the big dogs in town and they know it.

It stems from a few things. When Snyder bought the team, he brought in a new mentality when it came to media coverage. First, because of his marketing/media background he wanted a more consolidated/streamlined line of communication making it more difficult to get "inside scoops." Secondly he, or someone in his group, would hold stories to leak them to the national media first because he wanted the Redskins to be thought of nationally, not just locally. Needless to say, this irked a lot of local media. In that sense, Snyder and the Redskins didn't handle things right in my opinion.

But I think to an extent, the Redskins have some legitimate concerns. There are a lot of people who work in the media in the DC area (current friends and former colleagues of mine) who quite honestly have made serious blunders in their zeal to break a story on the Redskins. Whether it's providing erroneous information or reporting on issues that were strictly off the record. There are plenty of good, objective professional media people down in DC but then there are those who simply are looking for a career boost (by whatever means necessary). JLC strikes me as one of the latter.

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